Wow, shouting this early in the morning!? Can we now just please let this poor guy be. Reading all of this almost makes me constipated... too shit scared to go shit in the toilet he he

Everybody has valid points. And it is like so many has said.... each to their own. One thing I can say is that less people will actually have the courage now to ask things on the forum, as being judged like this will stop them.(even if they actually add to their post that you move on if it is not your cup of tea...face palm emoji)
I think by now he came right and is completely content and reading all of this with a grin on his face not really bothered by it... so let us follow his example and move on now ;)

The shouting gets so loud sometimes, one gets a headache so bad, one wants to vomit, but wait .... vomiting is disgusting.

On 2021-02-24 15:22:32 JP82 said:
On 2021-02-24 15:06:57 Cassanata said: .



The line between what is and isn't any of your business is pretty clear cut - consent. A corpse can't give consent, a child can't give consent, and a rape victim by definition doesn't give consent. So yes, I'm fine with this (although its not my (2 girls 1..) cup of tea) AND I can condemn necrophilia, paedophilia and rape.

People do not understand that lots of extreme fetishes are actually therapy for people with certain underlying mental conditions or issues (sorry, If offending anyone...don't know how else to say it). Kinks and fetishes usually have a deeper and underlying meaning.

When I was new to the industry I'd get b*tchy when someone asked for a golden shower because I thought they were having a piss at me...it turns out about 50% of clients would indulge in a gloden shower including partner to partner GS. Foot fetish and smothering don't count as fetishes to me at all.

I understand people who practise the rape fetish fantasize about raping someone in real life?? Now, if practising this fetish is going to stop another girl from being raped, a client from commiting this unforgivable crime and both parties are fine with it...then why not?? I personally cannot do that, but it has nothing to do with me. One client of mine who thinks is porn addict came to me worried about how he'd started enjoying pedophilia porn.

My mind was instantly like "WTF"? Then I said, hold on...calm down. I could see it was getting to him and he was confiding in me.
1).I asked him if there were actual kids in these vids?-No

2) When he sees young girls does he want to do things to them-No, he has nieces and he couldn't bear the thought.

Fair enough, the conscience is still present that what keeps us human at the end of the day. Of course, some fetishes are super weird and creepy...but I think sometimes we have to put our judgemental side and try to understand. Maybe not, but we all do some weird shit it may not be sexually. A healthy mind imagines things and it wonders around.

On 2021-02-25 21:56:40 Cassanata said:
No point arguing with people who can't see the forest for the trees.

Well, there's no point trying to reason with people whose positions are based on gut-feel rather than rational reasoning. If you want to go through your life deciding what you are willing to do based on gut-feel, that's fine (although its likely to lead to some inconsistencies and arbitrary distinctions, rather than a clear delineation of what's right and wrong). But *YOUR* gut is no basis for telling *OTHER* people what they should and shouldn't do.

(P.S. "people who can't see the forest for the trees" actually has a meaning and its not "people who wont be bullied into accepting my position without being given any reasons")

Shouldn't Sylvia be retiring or be on pension.Yes I don't agree with it but hey if its not for me just move the hell along.

By the way Sylvia TA TA have a good day

On 2021-02-25 20:55:08 JP82 said:
On 2021-02-25 20:25:56 Cassanata said: On 2021-02-25 19:26:31 JP82 said: Can any of you that are clutching your pearls in horror, actually articulate *why* you think this is wrong in a way that doesn't boil down to "*I* think its disgusting" ?

So just to clarify. According to you, there is no issue with this because its consensual and no harm is done, right?

[QUOTE;2733391;JP82] Moral philosophers generally draw the line at harm. That's why consent matters. No body is getting harmed here. Its also why it's not like paedophilia, rape etc, so please stop saying it is. [/QUOTE]
So as long as there is consent there is no harm.

What about a situation where a person consents to being mutilated or killed for anothers pleasure?

[QUOTE;2733391;JP82] Ok. Perhaps I inadvertently made the assumption that people are more familiar with how philosophy works than is actually the case. Yes there are different schools of thought. But all of them articulate actual REASONS for something being morally wrong. And no, their word is not absolute- THAT'S WHY I FUCKEN ASKED IF ANYONE CAN ARTICULATE *WHY* THEY THINK THIS IS WRONG. You know, actual reasons or a rational argument that might persuade someone rather than "It just feels icky to me" [/QUOTE]

This is a punting forum, why would you assume that most people here are familiar with philosophy. Do you think every whoremonger and wg on this forum have a copy of Kant's Critique of Pure Reason? I know what philosophy is and have dabbled a bit in it, not so much moral philosophy but I've read a few philosophers such as Schopenhauer, Nietzsche etc. My point in raising the schools of thought regarding various topics in philosophy was that they often come to contradictory conclusions regarding a topic.


[QUOTE;2733391;JP82] And FFS, this ""First you said only consent matters nut now harm matters too" might be the dumbest thing on this thread. Its not an additional criteria, its part the same fucking thing. Consent is the line that determines whether harm has been done, hence the legal principle "Volenti non fit iniuria". [/QUOTE]
Why do you assume that this is only a moral issue. Have you considered the psychological perspective on this? Do you believe hat people with extremeabnormal sexual fetishes could have underlying psychological issues?

If its part of the "same fucking thing" and consent determines whether harm was done, then would you say that no harm is done to a person who consents to being mutilated, psychologically abused or killed for another's pleasure?

On 2021-02-24 16:01:53 JP82 said:
When you die, you cease to exist as an autonomous moral agent. As a matter of tradition society tries to respect the wishes of the dead prior to their death but even this isn't always true - fights over inheritance for example. But a corpse is not a person, not legally and not morally. A person that doesn't exist cannot exercise autonomy over his or her body and therefore cannot give consent.

So what in your world view is wrong with having sex with a corpse? no body is being harmed.

Barney was a dinosaur
With no imagination
He stuck his finger up his arse
And died of constipation....

Just trying to let people see that there are worse things happening in the world lol

On 2021-02-26 09:55:51 Galaxy @ Be - Sensual said:
Barney was a dinosaur
With no imagination
He stuck his finger up his arse
And died of constipation....

Just trying to let people see that there are worse things happening in the world lol

Imagine what Barney would have gotten paid for that constipated poop