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jonnys - Re: DA winning Pretoria, your thoughts
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Posted: 2016-08-09 19:24:37

Best strategy would be for the da to run NMB only. Allow the mess to continue in JHB and Tshwane. For a while. The bigger the mess the more votes get lost. JZ equals DA votes.
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Posted: 2016-08-09 21:11:59

jonnys

Good point. If I were a DA official, I'd hate to have to rely on a coalition, in governing. My stress levels will be sky high.


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Posted: 2016-08-09 21:19:25

Then again, the DA did start out, in the Western Cape, governing within a coalition, so they do have that experience, from an institutional perspective anyway.

Politics in South Africa has entered an interesting stage.
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Posted: 2016-08-09 21:22:49

Coalition governments are best because they tend to average themselves out, ditto checking themselves.
It's high time SA becomes used to it, it is the future.
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Posted: 2016-08-09 22:47:30

Jonny's, the best times to get votes out of Zuma have now passed. 2014 and 2016. Research shows that support may prop up again if, say, Ramaphosa takes ANC over.
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Posted: 2016-08-09 22:56:47

@chmoks

All good points.

Zuma staying in would certainly do best for opposition parties but not necessarily for the state as a whole because we are yet to see what others will actually do.

My point is that at the least ANC will likely not be resting on its laurels but its hard to say what is what with Municipal elections. People were generous with opposition votes because of the relative lack of risk in these particular votes. Grapevines tell me black people are looking for reassurances in service delivery right now, the opposition vote is still just a test and they are very willing to go back to the devil they know if the opposition does nothing special. There is still lots of work to do to be honest.
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Posted: 2016-08-10 07:36:11
Edited: 2016-08-10 07:39:03

On 2016-08-09 22:56:47 Franci$co said:
There is still lots of work to do to be honest.



I agree, and there's relatively little time too, ditto funds.
That is why I've said that it would be best if both Tshwane & Jhb (the city) would turn into a DA-coalition, but maybe Tshwane only is more practical... and mind, then the difference will be more stark: 1 working city next to the abortion Jhb is, perhaps this contrast may help the next general elections better. Also, this way (only Tshwane under DA-coalition) funds will be spent more visible, as they will not seem 'diluted' when spent in Jhb-city (few know where the boundary lines are and the rest will remain a mess) only.
With Tshwane in the hands of largely the DA the private sector will be more willing to aid here too, this opposed to helping only a small part of the Jhb metropolis where, again, the effects will be less noted due to the rest of the big city remaining unaffected.

The DA story in CT started similar, the city itself they got.
They made it work, visible to anyone visiting from Gauteng, they feel 'aborad' in CT these days, for it is clean, safe, traffic behaves, everything works and you even can walk the city at night.
Look at the DA territory now in the Cape... it is huge, which means that the outlying areas have taken note of what has happened to CT, and they want this too!
Same will happen with Tshwane and PE, that is why these two cities are paramount for the DA to get (shared ie coalitioned) control of!
And when THAT happens then the door is open, it will not be closed anymore. Here's to hoping it will turn this way, the peoples of SA have been stolen from for too long for which they did not get anything, and they know it - some only need to SEE it!
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Posted: 2016-08-10 13:32:54

Give that man (Littlefinger/Malema) a Bells!

The press has not accurately reported the context of Malema's comments. The full press conference can be viewed here; www.youtube.com/watch

Malema realised a number of pertinent points;
- It costs "R60k" to sink a borehole. The DA spent R350million and ANC R1billion on their campaigns. How many boreholes, RDP houses etc does that buy?
- He commented that a granny in the rurals commented that promises of things like roads are pie in the sky, all she wants is access to water. Its an embarassement. Is this SA or Zim?

Its 2 years to the parliamentary elections and as an earlier poster mentioned, tangible changes need to be seen on the ground. Malema unlike his DA and ANC opponents can see that its better to spend party funds to make a difference than to complain about issues with the system. The DA may end up running JHB and PTA, but the technocrats and service providers are all ANC theives so it will take time to replace the rot. The Malema plan is a better way to go.

The re-run is a bad idea. Too much opportunity for the ANC to stack the deck.

Chaos is a ladder and Malema is better at playing the game than many around him.
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