I wonder if advertisers think about the way they advertise their businesses. I find that there are just too many who refer to their standard offering as Full or sometimes even Ultimate Girlfriend Experience.

Yet when it gets down to delivery time, Kissing, OWO and Muffing is charged as extras, the mind Boggles.
I wonder which GF will not at least kiss during the deed and even a half decent one would give and receive oral.
Now don't missunderstand I'm not saying it should be offered as a standard, if a WG charges it as extra the standard service cannot be described as a Full, let alone an Ultimate GFE.

Having said this there's the case with many others who don't even talk about these things because it's simply part of their often mind blowing, gonna make me rush back amazing service that makes one feel great about the experience.


Just my 2c use it, don't use it

I consider standard GFE to include kissing, OWO, muffing - though I've tolerated so called "GFEs" that didn't meet this definition - so when I hear the term being prefixed with "ultra" or "full", then I expect something that'll make me feel like I'm having a wet dream. I have a complete 180 of your experience: I've found that the ladies who use those terms often live up to the talk. The confidence excites me, it might just be great luck.

On 2022-01-23 22:53:23 Kommerq said:


Having said this there's the case with many others who don't even talk about these things because it's simply part of their ..... service

I can proudly, honestly and unequivocally say I fall in this group. (Blowing my own horn here). All of course is cleanliness dependent

On 2022-01-24 06:49:20 Bbw Nadia said:
On 2022-01-23 22:53:23 Kommerq said:

Having said this there's the case with many others who don't even talk about these things because it's simply part of their ..... service
I can proudly, honestly and unequivocally say I fall in this group. (Blowing my own horn here). All of course is cleanliness dependent

100% there are many like you which is awesome and thank you

I allow pretty much everything that comes with a 'normal' sexcapade.

I personally just don't like kissing. And that goes with my personal relationships as well.
I don't like spit in my mouth and having someone else spit in there as well is just something I don't particularly enjoy.

But other than that, my service fee always includes oral (both ways) touching, playing, all the fun things:)

@Saffron if it's something you simply don't enjoy then I'm sure you mention it upfront. This I totally get.

The problem just is when std things almost taken did granted becomes "extras" after an "Ultimate GFE" is offered as the std

@saffrom Skye come to Jhb north for a bit pls

On 2022-01-24 08:06:00 Kommerq said:
...The problem just is when std things almost taken did granted becomes "extras" after an "Ultimate GFE" is offered as the std

This seems to be the "norm" with new advertisers these days, and it doesn't seem likely to change,
no matter how much we debate/discuss it here.
Things I previously took for granted in a booking, are now "extras".
I guess we, as clients ,need to adjust and ask and confirm services, in advance.
Sadly, it seems like the only option at present!

I've seen ultimate GFE but adjective was never attached to the service, rather the rates.

Some SP's think that GFE is vanilla so anything besides PSE and fetish.

GFE to me is supposed to be passionate intense and sensual love making.

And now I'm getting a woody thinking about it

On 2022-01-24 08:26:28 josephjoestar said:
...GFE to me is supposed to be passionate intense and sensual love making...

YES...THAT is how I see it...well most of us do.
The problem is that, what was take for granted previously, has to be discussed in advance.
THIS has become my new MO, when making a booking.

The problem is that, some SP's think that you are some pervert asking too many Q's and cut you off.