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Posted: 2023-08-07 20:06:23

@jasimo...I like the way you think!
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Posted: 2023-08-07 20:37:46

On 2023-07-31 15:29:21 BryceK said:
1. We are in a recession
2. Money is tight
3. SP's have significantly raised their prices
4. Service has dropped to where it seems SP's believe punters are less than sh*t
5. Most SP's are just rude

Is it any wonder business is slow?




True words spoken here.

Last few punts have been miserable.
Thats if you even get a reply from sp's.
The cash is better off in my couch.
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Posted: 2023-08-07 21:09:13

My rates haven't changed since I started massaging a year ago and it was never a problem until now. WG find themselves considering
Lowering their prices because of enquiries that don't result to anything. If a wg is expensive, consider the area she is in, the venue she works from, water bill, room sprays, lingerie, monthly ad activation, regular shoots, hygiene products, and heated rooms, the list goes on because we have to look, feel and do good for you Gentlemen. All of these things cost money so essentially you get what you pay for. Independent girls are charging less then houses or venues are but run their business independently. Cut us a bit of slack, we are also trying to survive in these trying times
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Posted: 2023-08-09 01:54:31

Quantity vs Quality...

It's simple maths, for example, if you see 1-2 clients at R1500 you make R1500 -R3000 a day. If you see 4-5 clients at R1000 you make R4000 - R5000 a day, you can still buy all the cosmetics, lingerie, monthly ad activation, regular shoots, hygiene products etc. as a matter of fact, you would have more money at the end of the day not less. The only difference is, you would need to work a bit harder and improve on service value for the benefit of more money.
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Posted: 2023-08-09 07:52:43

On 2023-08-09 01:54:31 Vox Populi said:
Quantity vs Quality...

It's simple maths, for example, if you see 1-2 clients at R1500 you make R1500 -R3000 a day. If you see 4-5 clients at R1000 you make R4000 - R5000 a day, you can still buy all the cosmetics, lingerie, monthly ad activation, regular shoots, hygiene products etc. as a matter of fact, you would have more money at the end of the day not less. The only difference is, you would need to work a bit harder and improve on service value for the benefit of more money.



Your maths is 100% correct, unfortunately it does not work that way in reality.

Close to the majority of ladies advertise at below R1k, why not visit them, and complaining about those with prices of R1.5 upwards.

No matter what the ladies do, there will always be someone complaining about the rates.
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Posted: 2023-08-09 12:32:13

The real problem is that the economy is tanking. This is perfectly illustrated by the the comments of punters and service providers.

Punters need to service debt ie bonds and car payment as well as contend with a myriad range of increases in the prices ranging from fuel to food etc. They have also received way below inflation increases, if any , over the last 2/3 years. so they punt less, some not at all.

Service providers are subject to many of the same cost of living increases as well as a drop in income because punters are poorer.

Individuals in both camps need to decide how to survive, dare I say thrive, under these circumstances. My advise,make sure the punter booking you gets bang for his buck
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Posted: 2023-08-09 13:26:09

On 2023-08-09 12:32:13 undercoverpta said:
The real problem is that the economy is tanking. This is perfectly illustrated by the the comments of punters and service providers.

Punters need to service debt ie bonds and car payment as well as contend with a myriad range of increases in the prices ranging from fuel to food etc. They have also received way below inflation increases, if any , over the last 2/3 years. so they punt less, some not at all.

Service providers are subject to many of the same cost of living increases as well as a drop in income because punters are poorer.

Individuals in both camps need to decide how to survive, dare I say thrive, under these circumstances. My advise,make sure the punter booking you gets bang for his buck




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Posted: 2023-08-09 15:51:04

On 2023-08-09 07:52:43 Kooni said:

No matter what the ladies do, there will always be someone complaining about the rates.



Correct!

Ladies can ask 10c an hour and we will get the guys offering 1c for 2 hours and the guys wanting refunds because the lady wore a black instead of white panty and had 5 inch heels instead of the requested 10 inch heel and now he wasted 10 cents.
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Posted: 2023-08-10 09:05:32

On 2023-07-31 15:29:21 BryceK said:
1. We are in a recession
2. Money is tight
3. SP's have significantly raised their prices
4. Service has dropped to where it seems SP's believe punters are less than sh*t
5. Most SP's are just rude

Is it any wonder business is slow?




Have to agree
A sort of regular upped her prices by alot cos she felt she should since others were
I really couldn't afford it so had to stop seeing her
Found someone else at a reasonable rate
Now the old regular says fine she'll see me at the old rate
I just can't, she won't be into it and I'd feel like I'm robbing her of what she feels she's worth
Leaves a bit taste and then there's no fun to be had
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Posted: 2023-08-10 11:33:17
Edited: 2023-08-10 11:34:26

ave to agree
A sort of regular upped her prices by alot cos she felt she should since others were
I really couldn't afford it so had to stop seeing her
Found someone else at a reasonable rate
Now the old regular says fine she'll see me at the old rate
I just can't, she won't be into it and I'd feel like I'm robbing her of what she feels she's worth
Leaves a bit taste and then there's no fun to be had[/QUOTE]

This is why I never negotiate except to politely say to the "expensive" lady."Sorry but that falls outside my budget" Perhaps if they hear that a few times a day and business stays at the supposedly lower levels (or lower), that initiated the dramatic increases, they will realize that the market is sending a message.

Agree that negotiation results in sub - standard service.

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