@r2d4

Seriously --- were you homeschooled by a pigeon?
I'm not responding to each "point" you dumped out; reading that level of intellectual horse-shit once was already too much.

You said: "Everyone has prejudices and it's impossible to expect people to be free from them."
No one disputed that. The issue is you trying to dress yours up as though they're data-driven and rational instead of what they are: generalisations built from tiny, unrepresentative samples.

"Everyone has biases" is not the mic drop you think it is. It's the starting point for working against them, not an excuse for leaning in.

You asked:
"So statistically if a certain group has a higher chance of criminality, is it unreasonable to infer higher criminality from that group?"

Cute trick. You quietly switch from your anecdotes to actual demographic data as if the two are interchangeable. They're not. One is a dataset; the other is just your personal highlight reel of bad experiences.

If you had properly collected, controlled, peer-reviewed data, great --- you could talk about population-level inference.

Instead, you've got:
"I had some experiences and they felt statistically significant. Trust me bro."

Let's spell this out slowly, since the word "statistics" seems to be causing you emotional damage:
Your anecdotes are:
* not a random sample
* not controlled for anything
* not isolating variables
* not establishing correlation, let alone causation
* not eliminating context, environment, or selection bias

Yet you keep dropping "statistically significant" like a toddler who just learned a new word and wants everyone to hear it.
(You throw out the phrase "statistically significant" about a dozen times, yet clearly don't know what it means: Let's be crystal clear what that phrase actually means:

"Statistically significant" is a technical term, and it doesn't mean "I happen to think this is quite a big number", the way you're using it. It means: the probability of the mean of a random sample, differing from the mean of the full population is statistically indistinguishable from zero (usually but not always set as 5%), assuming the null hypothesis is true. Which requires: running a properly designed test on properly collected random sample,.
You have literally none of that.

No random sample
No defined null hypothesis
No test statistic
No p-value
No confidence interval
No controls applied (you just hand-waved "all other variables being equal" and called it a day)

If you want to say, "that's not how people live their lives" Cool. But then stop calling your anecdotes "statistically significant" because you haven't bothered to actually check.
You're basically saying: "My anecdotes feel convincing to me, therefore they are statistically significant."

And your Hillbrow example... wow
You said:
"If I get robbed 7 out of 10 times in Hillbrow..."
Yes. That means Hillbrow is dangerous. Well done.
You discovered "places exist."
What it doesn't mean is "therefore people of X race everywhere are criminals."
That's the leap you keep making because you can't separate:
* context-based risk legitimate
from
* race-based blanket assumptions prejudice dressed up in a lab coat.
If you said:
"Hillbrow has high crime rates," absolutely valid.
But you turn that into:
"Therefore people of X race are criminals worldwide." absolutely not valid.
You're ignoring variables, not removing them.
You're not doing statistical reasoning; you're doing Bigot Sudoku.
If you want to argue about socio-economics or environment as predictors of crime, cool --- there's real data.
If you want to claim entire races behave a certain way because of your personal anecdotes, then just say you're biased and stop misusing technical vocabulary you clearly don't understand.
Own the prejudice or learn the stats.
Pick one.

(By the way, were you off sick the day your pigeon tutor covered hyperbole? (hint it means using exaggeration for emphasis or effect -- like saying "five interactions" to emphasize that you have anecdotes not data)

@ Teletubby and SneakyOctopuss

Just curious. Is the 100s if not 1000s of utterly corrupt ANC politicians also just an outlier?
Yes, you get corruption amongst all politicians. But the scale here (and almost everywhere in Africa) is just next level...

On 2025-11-25 11:46:46 R2D4 said:


You know this guy is an simp by the words he uses, you are 40+ and using words like "edgelord"? Im guessing you dont have a life outside of the internet. You even used "mansplaning" - what a fkin tool.

The difference between you clowns and me is that I can say all this to your face but you guys are only brave on the internet. As for impotence, JP, you actually admitted to having impotence issues and erectile dysfunction which is why you go to visit ladies for a "chat", lmao.

What stands out most about you is the sheer predictability of your responses. The moment you encounter vocabulary you don't understand or reasoning you can't follow, you default to hostility, projection, and deflection. It's not argumentation; it's a reflexive defense mechanism.

You try to present yourself as intimidating, but your posts betray someone overwhelmed by basic discourse (and you famously scampered off when someone took you up on it. lol.). Your reliance on recycled insults instead of logical reasoning is a clear sign of intellectual avoidance: when you can't process an idea, you attack the person expressing it. This isn't strength --- it's a facade of dominance built on insecurity.

Your technical bravado only heightens the contrast. You assume that minimal procedural competence (as is common with comp sci grads) equals conceptual depth, but once you're asked to reason beyond the surface, the facade collapses into incoherent noise. The tantrum-like swings in tone and erratic escalation reveal someone struggling to maintain even the most basic cognitive load.

The projection is almost laughable. You accuse others of insecurity, fragility, and compulsive engagement --- qualities that, ironically, describe your own behaviour. Your criticisms aren't attacks on others; they're involuntary self-descriptions. And let's talk about the hypocrisy for a moment --- you love throwing around "simp" as your favourite insult, but you're going to criticize someone else for using the word "edgelord" when over they're 40? At what age should people stop keeping up with changes and adaptations to the lexicon, btw?

What's most ironic is your dismissal of mental health, while your posts show textbook signs of emotional dysregulation: disproportionate reactions, rapid escalation, and performative threats that serve no purpose but to create noise. These aren't signs of "toughness"; they're signs of a nervous system permanently on edge and emotional immaturity - in short they are the reactions of an over-stimulated, insecure toddler.

You of all people would stand to benefit perhaps the most from seeking professional psychological help. So the real irony in this is that the very traits you try parade as signs of strength are the same ones that prevent you from seeing the root of your issues. The red-pill ideology you cling to becomes a protective shield, keeping you from confronting the very emotional instability you can't control.

It's tragic and predictable. You don't engage in discourse --- you detonate, throwing tantrum after tantrum. Perhaps the saddest part of these glaring personality deficiencies is that you spend so much time participating in an online community that actively hates you. So perhaps its a blessing (at least for you) that you lack both the mental capacity and the self-awareness to realise it.


@Vrik - I'll respond to your question in the next day or two

On 2025-11-27 16:59:53 Teletubby said:
On 2025-11-25 11:46:46 R2D4 said:

You know this guy is an simp by the words he uses, you are 40+ and using words like "edgelord"? Im guessing you dont have a life outside of the internet. You even used "mansplaning" - what a fkin tool.

The difference between you clowns and me is that I can say all this to your face but you guys are only brave on the internet. As for impotence, JP, you actually o9admitted to having impotence issues and erectile dysfunction which is why you go to visit ladies for a "chat", lmao.



What stands out most about you is the sheer predictability of your responses. The moment you encounter vocabulary you don't understand or reasoning you can't follow, you default to hostility, projection, and deflection. It's not argumentation; it's a reflexive defense mechanism.

You try to present yourself as intimidating, but your posts betray someone overwhelmed by basic discourse (and you famously scampered off when someone took you up on it. lol.). Your reliance on recycled insults instead of logical reasoning is a clear sign of intellectual avoidance: when you can't process an idea, you attack the person expressing it. This isn't strength --- it's a facade of dominance built on insecurity.

Your technical bravado only heightens the contrast. You assume that minimal procedural competence (as is common with comp sci grads) equals conceptual depth, but once you're asked to reason beyond the surface, the facade collapses into incoherent noise. The tantrum-like swings in tone and erratic escalation reveal someone struggling to maintain even the most basic cognitive load.

The projection is almost laughable. You accuse others of insecurity, fragility, and compulsive engagement --- qualities that, ironically, describe your own behaviour. Your criticisms aren't attacks on others; they're involuntary self-descriptions. And let's talk about the hypocrisy for a moment --- you love throwing around "simp" as your favourite insult, but you're going to criticize someone else for using the word "edgelord" when over they're 40? At what age should people stop keeping up with changes and adaptations to the lexicon, btw?

What's most ironic is your dismissal of mental health, while your posts show textbook signs of emotional dysregulation: disproportionate reactions, rapid escalation, and performative threats that serve no purpose but to create noise. These aren't signs of "toughness"; they're signs of a nervous system permanently on edge and emotional immaturity - in short they are the reactions of an over-stimulated, insecure toddler.

You of all people would stand to benefit perhaps the most from seeking professional psychological help. So the real irony in this is that the very traits you try parade as signs of strength are the same ones that prevent you from seeing the root of your issues. The red-pill ideology you cling to becomes a protective shield, keeping you from confronting the very emotional instability you can't control.

It's tragic and predictable. You don't engage in discourse --- you detonate, throwing tantrum after tantrum. Perhaps the saddest part of these glaring personality deficiencies is that you spend so much time participating in an online community that actively hates you. So perhaps its a blessing (at least for you) that you lack both the mental capacity and the self-awareness to realise it.


@Vrik - I'll respond to your question in the next day or two

Lmao, this clown talks like chatgbt, his thinking is so procedural, prescribed and predictable. He thinks he is thinking but he is no more than a parrot. If only he knew how stupid he was, my guess is he is probably in some field that involves a lot of procedure and arbitrary detail.

If you ask him for his opinion on something he will tell you a chatgbt response ...the utilitarian perspective is X, the deontological perspective is Y. He is like a bot. Immagine having to listen to this idiot in public, it would be like listening to everyones random chatgbt answers on a loudspeaker.

As for bravado, like i said there is nothing i say online that i would not say in person, but clearly you are a coward as you cant do the same.

This is the type of idiot that if you see or hear him at a pub your first instinct would be to spike his drink so you dont have to notice him anymore.

Lol. It's actually funny how quickly you've basically confirmed everything TT said.

And your last paragraph is pretty disturbing. People who aren't walking around with like roofies in their pockets, "first instinct" is not to spike a random strangers drink. It says quite a lot about you, and none of it is good. Honestly, do people and women in particular, cover their drinks when they meet you? They should.

@Teletubby - you mentioned "and you famously scampered off when someone took you up on it. lol.". Could you elaborate for those of us who missed this delightful story?

On 2025-11-25 10:53:46 Teletubby said:

1. Are all cultural values equal? No, and the culture that produces illiterate keyboard racists who think "tribe development level" is a rational argument is objectively near the bottom.

So some are better than others and hence some are superior to others? if i said that pakistani culture is inferior to japanese culture, is that racist?


[QUOTE;5797472;Teletubby]3. Why did sub-Saharan Africa not develop written language or the wheel until the 19th century? Written language existed:
* Ge'ez script in continuous use since at least the 4th century BCE
[/QUOTE]
ehm...this script originated in the horn of africa, not sub-saharan africa as per my question. Go read a geography book you clown.

[QUOTE;5797472;Teletubby]* Ajami literacy across West Africa from the 11th century onward [/QUOTE]
"Ajami literacy refers to the writing of non-Arabic languages using a modified Arabic script, primarily found in parts of Africa, Asia, and Europe."
LOL, another fail you absolute brain-dead muppet.
[QUOTE;5797472;Teletubby]* Nsibidi and related indigenous systems pre-dating European contact
[/QUOTE]
Nsibidi is an ancient, ideographic script originating in southeastern Nigeria and southwestern Cameroon, used by peoples like the Ejagham, Efik, and Igbo for communication through various art forms and gestures. It is a system of symbols that can represent abstract concepts or actions rather than specific words, and was historically used by members of secret societies like the
Origin: Nsibidi is an ancient system of graphic communication that originated with the Ejagham people in the Cross River region, located in modern-day Nigeria and Cameroon.

this is a better example than your previous 2 fails but its still a fail. as its an ideographic script and represents abstract concepts and cant be used to create specific words. Also isolated it seems to Nigeria and neighboring countries.

What about our very own country? or zimbabwe or malawi?


[QUOTE;5797472;Teletubby]The wheel was largely irrelevant in tsetse-fly zones that kill draft animals and in terrain that made paved road networks impractical.
[/QUOTE]
So now the tsetse-fly has been eradicated and the terrain is suddenly suitable for paved road networks.
So the whole stretch of sub-saharan africa failed to develop a wheel because of tse tse flies and poor terrain?

I asked your good friend chatgbt a few questions:
Q - "is sub-saharan african terrain not suited for paved road?"
A - "Short answer: Sub-Saharan Africa is well-suited for paved roads, but the region faces economic, climatic, and governance challenges that make building and maintaining them difficult---not geological impossibility.

Q - "what percentage of sub-saharan africa is plagued by tse tse flies?"
A - "Tsetse flies are reported to inhabit an area of about 10 million km across Sub-Saharan Africa.

The total land area of Sub-Saharan Africa is around 22.4 million km.
Encyclopedia Britannica

That means roughly ~45--50% of the land area of Sub-Saharan Africa falls within regions that are (or have been) considered tsetse-infested"

oops, lol...another fail, son.



[QUOTE;5797472;Teletubby]
Meanwhile:
* Nok culture smelting iron by 1000 BCE [/QUOTE]
Ill give you this, but it was isolated to a small part of west africa. if you go further south there was no examples of anything similar.


[QUOTE;5797472;Teletubby]* Great Zimbabwe: 20,000 inhabitants, mortarless stone architecture [/QUOTE]
Ah yes, the great zimbabwe which tourists from all over the world flock to to marvel at its architecture that surpasses the Parthenon, the taj mahal and angkor watt.

Lmao, its a pile of rocks you clown.

And suppose it was possibly a great feat for the Zimbabweans at that time, why did they not develop further? they did not even have written language or a wheel.

[QUOTE;5797472;Teletubby] Mali Empire under Mansa Musa: wealthiest polity on Earth in the 14th century

[/QUOTE]
another fail...
Mali's territory lies at the transition zone between the Sahara Desert and sub-Saharan Africa.

Musa is a very african name and im sure his success had nothing to do with having been colonized by arabic invaders and conversion of his forefathers to islam which encouraged them to wage war and conquer neighboring african countries and amass wealth.


lol this is some next level cope and rationalization.

Just give up man, you have lost all credibility with those string of errors.

[QUOTE;5797472;Teletubby]

6. Why do different ethnic groups display different traits and behaviours? Primarily environment, history, resource access, and recent socioeconomic conditions. Genetic variation between continental populations is dwarfed by variation within them (Lewontin 1972; reaffirmed by every large-scale genomic study since).
[/QUOTE]
"Genetic variation between continental populations is dwarfed by variation within them "
so why are there huge differences in IQ between continental populations?

so by this logic, a random nigerian would have more genetic variation with another random nigerian than with a korean? makes sense...

god, you are stupid.

goodnight bot.

On 2025-11-27 21:51:48 SneakyOctopuss said:
Lol. It's actually funny how quickly you've basically confirmed everything TT said.

who is titty?

On 2025-11-27 21:51:48 SneakyOctopuss said:
And your last paragraph is pretty disturbing. People who aren't walking around with like roofies in their pockets, "first instinct" is not to spike a random strangers drink. It says quite a lot about you, and none of it is good.

Is it bad?

On 2025-11-27 22:18:31 R2D4 said:

who is titty?

Is it bad?

TT=Teletubby. For some one who is perpetually on the forum, you're like really bad at understanding how it works. Unless that was meant to be a joke/jab, in which case you're really bad at jokes. That comp sci degree is really starting to come into focus...

For anyone else, yes. For you, it seems to be about par for the course to be honest.

On 2025-11-27 22:14:24 R2D4 said:
if i said that pakistani culture is inferior to japanese culture, is that racist?

Yes actually. Implied superiority/inferiority is a key component of racism.

My two cents if it matters; we all have prejudices like you said, but not all of us try to dance around that fact. Own it. Work on it, dont work on it, whatever. But don't deny it.

Another December ".... UP- lROAR ...."!