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Posted: 2025-06-01 21:51:48
Edited: 2025-06-01 21:52:36

On 2025-06-01 21:06:11 R2D4 said:
On 2025-05-31 12:29:16 Fantacy Dolls said: Guys we want to ask something.
U guys asking for rates must fall and all that.
Could we maybe ask if u book. Give us ur esa name. Tell us if u a gold or basic member OR non member. Then we can decide if we need to take another booking(double booking) just incase its a NO SHOW.

Again, a client made a booking and its a NO SHOW. A double booking, so basicaly 2 girls lost on other clients they had to cancel with. I dont think thats fair on the girls out there.

Can u put your money where your mouth is. Or In this case can you put your esa name where your mouth is when making a booking??

Ps. Thank you to those who have the decency to send a whatsapp if he cant make it. And to those who actualy give their esa names. You are the once that makes this business great


What does this have to do with the topic?

No, we dont have to put our name when making a booking, thats not how it works, if you dont like it then try a different industry.



I think you are misunderstanding what she is trying to articulate.

They will gladly accept your booking, no matter the type or duration, without a deposit, if you verify that you are, in actual fact an ESA member. It does not matter whether you are a gold or basic member.

I truly hope this helps you with any confusion henceforth!

xxx

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Posted: 2025-06-01 22:04:54
Edited: 2025-06-01 22:35:04

On 2025-06-01 15:05:48 Essex Girl Kim said:
All the punters that are being rude and disrespectful to SP and other punters.

Why hide behind your fake names and rather post your cell numbers.

I guarantee all sp would block you.

SP go through so much with abusive punters and now we have a click of them on ESA forum.

If you really can't afford the rates .... Say nothing and if you need to speak rather do it in a positive manner maybe a sp would contact you and offer you a lower rate.

I have been inundated from punters asking me to raise my rates as my rates are not in Line with the going upmarket rates and the service I offer.

SP (advertise) pay tripple you pay for a membership monthly.

SP have expenses and most are single parent, with children to bring up alone.

Let SP charge what rate they need to charge and stop being abusive to SP and punters.

Nobody is forcing you to see a SP that's your choice.

Can we all try and be respectful of each other R and go back to a forum where we can have fun chats without all the disgusting abusive chat that's been going on.

I have written to management on ESA and asked them to look at the abuse on this thread specifically and weed out the bullying and abuse.

This in the end does affect ESA as punters are already telling me it's becoming trashy because of a click of punters that are so abusive it's not nice to go on ESA.

Who knows maybe this click of punters are trying the girls to leave as they most probably have a site they need girls to advertise on so trashing ESA is their aim.

Food for thought ESA.
Please stop the abuse.

Maybe do what Instagram and YouTube do.

Any abuse will get you blocked.



Thank you Kim SO MUCH for this! It is high time for us ladies (who pay A MUCH HIGHER SUBSCRIPTION) to take our power back, as well as to STOP taking the abuse and bullying on the forum!

For far too long the ladies have been abused and bullied on the forum by the same little group of salad boys; and have been too afraid to participate because of this!

I will insert a comment here that I made on a different forum thread:


There are probably around 8.3 billion people currently (I didn't have time to Google, so crunched the numbers in my head briefly) on our planet, it is impossible to get along with everyone. Sometimes people will just not 'click' and that is just the way it is, and that is okay.

It is comments like these that deters the ladies from participating on the forum purely out of fear that they will be attacked and bullied! I know this because I speak to the ladies. You guys have ZERO IDEA of how many wonderful and amazing women in this industry you are missing out on getting to know because of this 'kak' attitude and behavior!

It is actually a shame and very sad. What do toxic attacks on and/or bullying the ladies achieve? They do not participate in discussions! Go figure!?!

Who do you want to have discussions on the forum with to get to know them a little bit before making an informed decision? The punters? No, most of the decent punters lurk in a corner and watch the same toxic members have discussions amongst themselves. Where is the fun in that? Or... do you guys get to know each other and then hook up via dm for a 'great-fun' time?

Come ON guys! This is NOT rocket science?

DO BETTER!!!

Kisses as always xxx

KB

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Posted: 2025-06-01 22:11:55

On 2025-05-31 10:04:51 JustMike said:
On 2025-05-31 00:28:05 Faith said: On 2025-05-30 11:45:04 Curvy Sexy Kim said: Wow. This thread is very sad.

ESA is a place to have fun , well it used to be until recently.

Please guys and girls can we be respectful and bring back the fun. It's downright disgusting babe

Politely. If you don't like please don't read and move on



Why should the ladies that pay premium subscription fees move on instead of standing up to the way that they are being treated?

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Posted: 2025-06-01 22:25:03

On 2025-06-01 07:53:19 ASASH said:
Doubt seasoned punters will ever pay a deposit. Too many horror stories about the deposit situation. Besides majority of punters are in some form of relationship. Last thing one wants is a paper trail. Too many tracking options these days besides.



I was not referring to seasoned punters.
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Posted: 2025-06-01 22:41:03

On 2025-05-31 13:48:36 Mallet said:
Mallet here...

Gold Memeber...

Always rock up and rise to the occasion...and if for some reason something comes up, and I can't make it...ima send you half ur booking fee..

These no show characters is a fckup...


On 2025-05-31 12:29:16 Fantacy Dolls said: Guys we want to ask something.
U guys asking for rates must fall and all that.
Could we maybe ask if u book. Give us ur esa name. Tell us if u a gold or basic member OR non member. Then we can decide if we need to take another booking(double booking) just incase its a NO SHOW.

Again, a client made a booking and its a NO SHOW. A double booking, so basicaly 2 girls lost on other clients they had to cancel with. I dont think thats fair on the girls out there.

Can u put your money where your mouth is. Or In this case can you put your esa name where your mouth is when making a booking??

Ps. Thank you to those who have the decency to send a whatsapp if he cant make it. And to those who actualy give their esa names. You are the once that makes this business great



Wow! I didn't expect this from you. Well done! THIS chivalry turns me ONNN... Puuurrring like a kitten right now... (inserts smiling purple devil emoticon)
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Posted: 2025-06-01 23:31:02

On 2025-06-01 08:09:24 ASASH said:
On 2025-05-31 22:36:14 Kourtney B said: Just a quick side note...

THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH for this wonderful and informative thread! Thanks to you guys I realized that I have been short changing myself for the level of service that I provide xxx

My rates have been adjusted and as from tomorrow, the 1st of JUNE, my new, increased, rates will apply.

You guys ABSOLUTELY ROCK!!!

Have a wonderful evening further...

Kisses as always xxx

KB

Good for you. If you have aligned your prices then thats good hopefully that also equates to an increase in your revenue.

As a not so quick side note and just theoretically:
If a SP ups prices by say even R50 said SP may be competing with younger hotter more enthusiastic SPs who know how to please their clients. So the potential punter may now have the conundrum do I visit a maybe older, lots of baggage , uhm alright in bed but talks more than sucks dick, was also just R50 cheaper yesterday or this younger, hotter, no drama, wants to please and ensure repeat booking version at the same "new" price or maybe even R100 more expensive. Uhm id go to the new one even if I was a regular to the former.



I value and note your interesting perspective...

Here is a different one 'as a not so quick side note,and theoretically'...

Some 'older', and more experienced ladies, take pride in what they do, and considers it an art. Many of the new ladies, irrelevant of their age, just don't get it yet, but those who do will excel in the industry.

From my experience, being in personal contact with many of our wonderful ladies, the younger ladies sometimes have more baggage as they are still finding their feet, as well as themselves, in the industry.

My target market of clients most definitely do not want to see a young SP, as they are more mature and need stimulating conversation, and some of them have daughters that are in their 20's.

Please also keep in mind that the premium, experienced, 'older, baggage riddled' SP's have an uncanny ability to read you and provide a tailored service that, not only meet your WANTS, but also TAKE CARE of your NEEDS...

I HIGHLY DOUBT that my regular clientele will abandon me because my rates are STILL very reasonable for the level of service that I offer, and they will most probably continue to tip.

As for new clients? My rates are not ridiculous, even after my increase. I will continue to grow my regular clientele base through the level of service that I offer.

Kisses as always xxx

KB (F)


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Posted: 2025-06-01 23:36:19

On 2025-06-01 09:13:33 FrecklesLover said:
On 2025-05-31 21:35:31 Kourtney B said: I completely understand why so many ladies lately require a deposit and from what I can gage it will become more of the norm as time goes on.


A deposit is unlikely to ever become the norm.

Last 3 SPs I saw all had no reviews on their profile. I would've not seen them had they asked for a deposit.

A deposit only works if you're well reviewed and there's something niche about your service.



I absolutely agree but times are changing and every minute a new sucker simp is born... Things are changing and the ladies are talking more and more about it. The cancelation/no show rate is much higher than it used to be.
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Posted: 2025-06-02 08:22:31
Edited: 2025-06-02 08:24:05

After over 500 posts in more than 2 weeks punters still believe rates must fall and fiercely reject paying deposits. The only winners here were the SP's who used the thread to offer specials!

It was interesting to note that many of the punters who participated in the discussion were long term players, not chancers and known discounting cheapskates.

Bookings are already down significantly, which very likely together with increased costs, motivated the campaign to substantially increase fees. Punters are also at a tipping point where they have decreased the frequency of bookings and are also subject to low or no increases and higher costs.

This means that no major fee increases will result in meaningful increases in total income for SP's.
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Posted: 2025-06-02 08:24:27
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Hey ratface.

I do love myself and u can't stand it.

And once I pull my gloved hand out your asshole full of your shit, cause that is how I shall know it is you, only a person with very little self respect , a rodent , would come with an ass full of shit, I will make sure to have u lick it clean!! Smeer it all over your mouth.
Gag you with my shit covered fingers.

Deephthroating you with kak fill fingers

CLEAN.
CLEAN.

It is your own shit after all.


Hahahhahahahhaha!

Just like those Dubai videos ....fill your mouth with the shit that comes out of YOUR own ass .


HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHJAHA....

DUBAI it is!


I am a quick learner and u shall be my Dubai first!

Rates higher than the usual ass finger fuck I charge . It is a DUBAI EXPERIENCE...PREMIUM rates it is!!


RB.
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YAWN some more Russian VS Rat shit.

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