On 2022-12-06 11:24:28 Saffron Skye said:


Cool so the booking was cancelled while you were there- you paid a cancellation fee. This was not a scam.

She could have told you to pay the entire booking? But she didn't. She gave you a cancellation fee of R200 to pay.

Skye, please explain your thinking to us here.

The cancelation is reactive to the change in services being offered, after being promised a different set of services.

If you call ahead to a restaurant and order a meal but when you get there you are told they can only give you something else.

Is one not allowed to cancel?
And if they did, should they pay a % of the fee required to cook up the unwanted meal, and still not even consume that meal?

I simply cannot empathize with the WG here and ASASH is well within his rights to complain and offer a negative review.

Never pay a cancellation fee guys. Its like saying thanking for scamming me, here is R200.

Bodily autonomy.

We don't know what all these extras were that he wanted.

For example. When you ask my pricelist, I give you a set of services I offer, also on said pricelist, it states fingers may be used and that I offer OWO in my bookings.

If you read to the end, it also says that should your fingers be dirty or stained, that offer is no longer on the table. OR should your penis be dirty and you did not wash properly, making it uncomfortable for me, OWO is definitely not an option.

LETS ASSUME (assume because we don't know what the extras was he asked for so I'm making up examples) he asked for something she usually is comfortable with but did not disclose something ie. he wanted deepthroat PSE. He got there, she saw "ooomph" maybe you know, his penis is too big, or when he got out the shower she noticed he didn't wash his ass, whatever the case was for her to change her mind, and she then felt uncomfortable and not willing to give that certain service anymore, saying sorry I can't offer you the BJ PSE you asked for, but I can continue with the other things.

He says cool; I will rather then cancel the entire booking instead of just not paying for the extras I asked for.

She then says, Okay but I feel I still deserve some form of remuneration because you used my shower, you took up time and I could have made other money, I prepped for this booking IE make up etc. that costs money. You can leave but you have to pay the R200 cancellation fee, Now probably she did not say it like this because she's been fucked over before and worded it something to the lines of "You need to pay R200 or I'm not giving you the access code to leave the complex".

Now from what I understand, is he's twisting the story and only telling the bits and pieces of it that will make him look good, he's not disclosing everything that happened and even when asked to do so got extremely defensive and derogatory - indicating I am on the right track.

From my years of being in this industry, eeeh most likely this is what happened. He felt embarrassed, upset, perhaps even a bit annoyed that he got this fantasy in his head and well it didnt happen, all valid feelings.

Perhaps she could have explained it better even of why he had to pay R200. Maybe she did and he's just not telling that part.

Point is, this is not scamming someone. Scamming him would have been to take ALL the money for the booking and then saying nope sorry even though I charged you extra and took the money for deepthroat PSE, I'm now changing my mind. And not refunding you.

But, instead, he is telling us he got there, the booking got cancelled because she changed her mind on certain extras, and take note - he did not PAY her for the extras OR the booking, according to him he just paid the R200 to leave.

So with all that information...what's more likely that happened?

She charged a cancellation fee without explicitly saying it's a cancellation fee (which I suppose she didn't think needed to be spelled out to him but in this industry I've learned you need to spell things out to men, on odd occasions draw pictures)

OR

Did he not get what he wanted and is now trying to tarnish her for denying him certain pleasures because his ego is wounded? Calling it "scamming" instead of what it actually is.

On 2022-12-06 16:08:10 Saffron Skye said:
Bodily autonomy.

We don't know what all these extras were that he wanted.

For example. When you ask my pricelist, I give you a set of services I offer, also on said pricelist, it states fingers may be used and that I offer OWO in my bookings.

If you read to the end, it also says that should your fingers be dirty or stained, that offer is no longer on the table. OR should your penis be dirty and you did not wash properly, making it uncomfortable for me, OWO is definitely not an option.

LETS ASSUME (assume because we don't know what the extras was he asked for so I'm making up examples) he asked for something she usually is comfortable with but did not disclose something ie. he wanted deepthroat PSE. He got there, she saw "ooomph" maybe you know, his penis is too big, or when he got out the shower she noticed he didn't wash his ass, whatever the case was for her to change her mind, and she then felt uncomfortable and not willing to give that certain service anymore, saying sorry I can't offer you the BJ PSE you asked for, but I can continue with the other things.

He says cool; I will rather then cancel the entire booking instead of just not paying for the extras I asked for.

She then says, Okay but I feel I still deserve some form of remuneration because you used my shower, you took up time and I could have made other money, I prepped for this booking IE make up etc. that costs money. You can leave but you have to pay the R200 cancellation fee, Now probably she did not say it like this because she's been fucked over before and worded it something to the lines of "You need to pay R200 or I'm not giving you the access code to leave the complex".

Now from what I understand, is he's twisting the story and only telling the bits and pieces of it that will make him look good, he's not disclosing everything that happened and even when asked to do so got extremely defensive and derogatory - indicating I am on the right track.

From my years of being in this industry, eeeh most likely this is what happened. He felt embarrassed, upset, perhaps even a bit annoyed that he got this fantasy in his head and well it didnt happen, all valid feelings.

Perhaps she could have explained it better even of why he had to pay R200. Maybe she did and he's just not telling that part.

Point is, this is not scamming someone. Scamming him would have been to take ALL the money for the booking and then saying nope sorry even though I charged you extra and took the money for deepthroat PSE, I'm now changing my mind. And not refunding you.

But, instead, he is telling us he got there, the booking got cancelled because she changed her mind on certain extras, and take note - he did not PAY her for the extras OR the booking, according to him he just paid the R200 to leave.

So with all that information...what's more likely that happened?

She charged a cancellation fee without explicitly saying it's a cancellation fee (which I suppose she didn't think needed to be spelled out to him but in this industry I've learned you need to spell things out to men, on odd occasions draw pictures)

OR

Did he not get what he wanted and is now trying to tarnish her for denying him certain pleasures because his ego is wounded? Calling it "scamming" instead of what it actually is.

Okaaaay so I was right...I went to the review he did on her profile...omg dude.

Quote from his review: "...so she says. Kissing, cuddling, massage, blowjob with condom, penetration full GFE. R400 for 30 min R600 for the hour and extra R100 for bareblow."

Quote from his review: "I am in the room and we about to get down, I always start with a kiss and carry on from there, provisio statement these days I only book SPs that offer OWO and Kissing. She then tells me no kissing is only for the 1 hour session, "


So....maybe...just a thought here...ASASH- did you use mouthwash or brush your teeth before you went? Perhaps she changed her mind because you had bad breath.

And where the hell does the man in the other room story now come in? it wasnt mentioned here?

All this drama because she wouldnt kiss you. Really? God.

On 2022-12-06 16:26:20 Saffron Skye said:
On 2022-12-06 16:08:10 Saffron Skye said: Bodily autonomy.

We don't know what all these extras were that he wanted.

For example. When you ask my pricelist, I give you a set of services I offer, also on said pricelist, it states fingers may be used and that I offer OWO in my bookings.

If you read to the end, it also says that should your fingers be dirty or stained, that offer is no longer on the table. OR should your penis be dirty and you did not wash properly, making it uncomfortable for me, OWO is definitely not an option.

LETS ASSUME (assume because we don't know what the extras was he asked for so I'm making up examples) he asked for something she usually is comfortable with but did not disclose something ie. he wanted deepthroat PSE. He got there, she saw "ooomph" maybe you know, his penis is too big, or when he got out the shower she noticed he didn't wash his ass, whatever the case was for her to change her mind, and she then felt uncomfortable and not willing to give that certain service anymore, saying sorry I can't offer you the BJ PSE you asked for, but I can continue with the other things.

He says cool; I will rather then cancel the entire booking instead of just not paying for the extras I asked for.

She then says, Okay but I feel I still deserve some form of remuneration because you used my shower, you took up time and I could have made other money, I prepped for this booking IE make up etc. that costs money. You can leave but you have to pay the R200 cancellation fee, Now probably she did not say it like this because she's been fucked over before and worded it something to the lines of "You need to pay R200 or I'm not giving you the access code to leave the complex".

Now from what I understand, is he's twisting the story and only telling the bits and pieces of it that will make him look good, he's not disclosing everything that happened and even when asked to do so got extremely defensive and derogatory - indicating I am on the right track.

From my years of being in this industry, eeeh most likely this is what happened. He felt embarrassed, upset, perhaps even a bit annoyed that he got this fantasy in his head and well it didnt happen, all valid feelings.

Perhaps she could have explained it better even of why he had to pay R200. Maybe she did and he's just not telling that part.

Point is, this is not scamming someone. Scamming him would have been to take ALL the money for the booking and then saying nope sorry even though I charged you extra and took the money for deepthroat PSE, I'm now changing my mind. And not refunding you.

But, instead, he is telling us he got there, the booking got cancelled because she changed her mind on certain extras, and take note - he did not PAY her for the extras OR the booking, according to him he just paid the R200 to leave.

So with all that information...what's more likely that happened?

She charged a cancellation fee without explicitly saying it's a cancellation fee (which I suppose she didn't think needed to be spelled out to him but in this industry I've learned you need to spell things out to men, on odd occasions draw pictures)

OR

Did he not get what he wanted and is now trying to tarnish her for denying him certain pleasures because his ego is wounded? Calling it "scamming" instead of what it actually is.






Okaaaay so I was right...I went to the review he did on her profile...omg dude.

Quote from his review: "...so she says. Kissing, cuddling, massage, blowjob with condom, penetration full GFE. R400 for 30 min R600 for the hour and extra R100 for bareblow."

Quote from his review: "I am in the room and we about to get down, I always start with a kiss and carry on from there, provisio statement these days I only book SPs that offer OWO and Kissing. She then tells me no kissing is only for the 1 hour session, "


So....maybe...just a thought here...ASASH- did you use mouthwash or brush your teeth before you went? Perhaps she changed her mind because you had bad breath.

And where the hell does the man in the other room story now come in? it wasnt mentioned here?

All this drama because she wouldnt kiss you. Really? God.

No wonder you're always battling for business and desperately trying to sell online content all the time.

You have no clue how men work or think or care to satisfy them and it shows.

JP69

[QUOTE;3918373;JackParrow69] On 2022-12-06 16:26:20 Saffron Skye said: On 2022-12-06 16:08:10 Saffron Skye said: Bodily autonomy.

****ACTUALLY****

lol...just LOL...

The entitlement you men have is...astounding.

You need to start sharing what you eat for breakfast because lord knows I need the confidence some of yall have.

On 2022-12-06 16:08:10 Saffron Skye said:
Bodily autonomy.

Did he not get what he wanted and is now trying to tarnish her for denying him certain pleasures because his ego is wounded? Calling it "scamming" instead of what it actually is.

I'm somewhat bored with the glaring logical fallacies offered up as "irrefutable evidence of punter fuckery" in many of the threads on here as of late, that's why I rarely engage unless 1) It is entirely egregious if not amusing 2) I have some time to spare or 3) The dumb dumb posting the twatwaffle doesn't take the first few hints that a more verbose smackdown is en-route should they continue their illegitimate oxygen theft from more deserving frontal lobes.

In this instance however, your posts put on display your remarkable confirmation bias in this regard.

Don't get me wrong, it is your right to assume a pro SP position, regardless of merit.

You're not the only lady here to do it.

It just makes having a debate with you a mundane affair.

Closed minds gather no thoughts.

On 2022-12-06 19:19:11 JamesSpader said:
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I'm somewhat bored with the glaring logical fallacies offered up as "irrefutable evidence of punter fuckery" in many of the threads on here as of late, that's why I rarely engage unless 1) It is entirely egregious if not amusing 2) I have some time to spare or 3) The dumb dumb posting the twatwaffle doesn't take the first few hints that a more verbose smackdown is en-route should they continue their illegitimate oxygen theft from more deserving frontal lobes.

In this instance however, your posts put on display your remarkable confirmation bias in this regard.

Don't get me wrong, it is your right to assume a pro SP position, regardless of merit.

You're not the only lady here to do it.

It just makes having a debate with you a mundane affair.

Closed minds gather no thoughts.

I believe cognitive dissonance is the terms of the times to describe this scenario.

N4P

I can think of many other terms that describe this scenario...