In my opinion, I feel sensual massages and FH cater to two different needs and each is good in their own right. Given that I too have never been able to climax from a BJ or HJ, I would tend to lean more towards the FH. I won't eliminate sensual massage entirely but it won't be my first option.

Ultimately it is all about it being thrilling and that changes with time.

When you start out in the purple world, getting a sensual massage is very exciting. But with time, you need something more, the real thing. Not just some body to body. However, occasionally, with the right lady, a massage can still really get you going.

Perhaps the rise and fall of the mg/wg ratio can be attributed to the number of new guys in the game.

Masseuse, active in Cape Town at the moment. I was with her for 2hours many years ago. Then she left and now she is back. She gave me my best ESA experience, a very kinky massage no sex at all. Proper massage girls are the best. Please post names of the best. This girl was awesome and if she returns to JHB area i will defiantly visit again.

On 2023-01-11 11:59:07 big cat said:
Masseuse, active in Cape Town at the moment. I was with her for 2hours many years ago. Then she left and now she is back. She gave me my best ESA experience, a very kinky massage no sex at all. Proper massage girls are the best. Please post names of the best. This girl was awesome and if she returns to JHB area i will defiantly visit again.

Bud, give Jasmine and Jess at Broadway a try ot Kylie elements, Demi Bryanston. All active ads. All top notch in service

@MtTee

I don't completely get where you're coming from because it sounds like you really want to book the massage ladies, but not at their full house rate. Am I correct?

Personally, I see it as the younger attractive ladies just taking advantage of their currency (beauty) to make as much as possible until it fades or they leave the industry. Sometimes the venues are to blame for this. This happens outside of this industry as well.

As a dabbler on both sides, I don't mind this "market manipulation" because there are more than enough ladies that cater to my needs at a price I'm comfortable paying, but I'm not in the habit of getting swindled because I understand (tried and tested) that R4K might get me an hour with a fresh off the boat European lady in Cape Town, but that very same R4K can get me an entire day with a local lady who is just as attractive, if you get her on a good day. You just have to know where to look and you'll find something that works for you.


As an aside, I'm glad to see ghostwrita on the forum - cheers!

On 2023-01-12 13:44:07 Littlerascal said:
@MtTee

I don't completely get where you're coming from because it sounds like you really want to book the massage ladies, but not at their full house rate. Am I correct?

Personally, I see it as the younger attractive ladies just taking advantage of their currency (beauty) to make as much as possible until it fades or they leave the industry. Sometimes the venues are to blame for this. This happens outside of this industry as well.

As a dabbler on both sides, I don't mind this "market manipulation" because there are more than enough ladies that cater to my needs at a price I'm comfortable paying, but I'm not in the habit of getting swindled because I understand (tried and tested) that R4K might get me an hour with a fresh off the boat European lady in Cape Town, but that very same R4K can get me an entire day with a local lady who is just as attractive, if you get her on a good day. You just have to know where to look and you'll find something that works for you.


As an aside, I'm glad to see ghostwrita on the forum - cheers!

On the contrary, not at all.

I spend what I like, but when I enquire from said ladies what their services entail they always say "NO FH, GFE OR PENETRATION OF ANY KIND"

So, this is what boggles my mind as I see a lot of punters saying it's always an extra... Yet I don't get that menu?

It ain't about the money. It's about the fact that this site is a punting site - not pornhub, not naughty masseuse. So why is it being treated like an all inclusive Craigslist? We come here to find ladies we can enjoy and actually do the deed with.

Heck, that's my opinion anyway. Fortunately I've found other resources to supply this type of working gal.

On 2023-01-16 07:20:02 MtTee said:


I spend what I like, but when I enquire from said ladies what their services entail they always say "NO FH, GFE OR PENETRATION OF ANY KIND"

So, this is what boggles my mind as I see a lot of punters saying it's always an extra... Yet I don't get that menu?

It ain't about the money. It's about the fact that this site is a punting site - not pornhub, not naughty masseuse. So why is it being treated like an all inclusive Craigslist? We come here to find ladies we can enjoy and actually do the deed with.

I still don't understand where you're going with this post. Perhaps you're looking in the wrong place. ESA is a platform for escorts to advertise their services and these services come in all forms.

On 2023-01-16 12:46:08 Littlerascal said:
On 2023-01-16 07:20:02 MtTee said:

I spend what I like, but when I enquire from said ladies what their services entail they always say "NO FH, GFE OR PENETRATION OF ANY KIND"

So, this is what boggles my mind as I see a lot of punters saying it's always an extra... Yet I don't get that menu?

It ain't about the money. It's about the fact that this site is a punting site - not pornhub, not naughty masseuse. So why is it being treated like an all inclusive Craigslist? We come here to find ladies we can enjoy and actually do the deed with.

I still don't understand where you're going with this post. Perhaps you're looking in the wrong place. ESA is a platform for escorts to advertise their services and these services come in all forms.

Where I'm going is, the number of WG actually offering sex, penetration, groin smashing, has declined and instead been replaced with women offering a movie theater hand job.

Again, the point of this platform was to connect punters to WGs for the age old act of groin smashing.

On 2023-01-16 14:54:59 MtTee said:
On 2023-01-16 12:46:08 Littlerascal said: On 2023-01-16 07:20:02 MtTee said:

I spend what I like, but when I enquire from said ladies what their services entail they always say "NO FH, GFE OR PENETRATION OF ANY KIND"

So, this is what boggles my mind as I see a lot of punters saying it's always an extra... Yet I don't get that menu?

It ain't about the money. It's about the fact that this site is a punting site - not pornhub, not naughty masseuse. So why is it being treated like an all inclusive Craigslist? We come here to find ladies we can enjoy and actually do the deed with.

I still don't understand where you're going with this post. Perhaps you're looking in the wrong place. ESA is a platform for escorts to advertise their services and these services come in all forms.

Where I'm going is, the number of WG actually offering sex, penetration, groin smashing, has declined and instead been replaced with women offering a movie theater hand job.

Again, the point of this platform was to connect punters to WGs for the age old act of groin smashing.

Not sure about the source of your information, but the ratio between FH and MG have remained pretty constant over time, what have increased though is MG's that offers FH as an extra to their normal services, meaning that FH providers have increase in real terms and pure MG services providers are on the decrease. The opposite of what you are saying are actually happening.

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Again, the point of this platform was to connect punters to WGs for the age old act of groin smashing. [/QUOTE]

I don't think so. The massage part was part of Esa when it started.