On 2026-03-09 11:44:45 Caton said:
Why is this even a debate.

Don't waste your time and energy.

It's actually interesting how quickly the conversation shifted from the topic of tipping to trying to insult someone personally.

That usually happens when people can't really argue the point itself.

Nobody in this thread said people shouldn't tip. Many of us do tip when the experience is great. The point being discussed was much simpler:

A tip is voluntary appreciation, not a mandatory second fee.

The moment someone asks for it or expects it automatically, it stops being a tip and becomes a hidden surcharge. That's the whole issue people are talking about.

And interestingly even one of the advertisers here said the same thing --- that nobody should actually ask for a tip.

So the principle is already agreed on.

The "are you poor?" argument is also a bit strange. Whether someone tips or not has very little to do with wealth. In fact, people who are financially disciplined are usually the ones who respect agreed prices the most.

If a rate is R1300 and someone pays R1300, that means the agreement was honoured. Nothing more, nothing less.

A tip should come from good chemistry and a great experience, not from pressure or expectation.

And ironically when someone asks for a tip, that's usually the fastest way to guarantee they won't get one.

The best interactions in this environment happen when both sides respect the same simple structure:

The rate is the price.

The service is the agreement.

Anything extra is appreciation, not obligation.

When that balance exists, both sides walk away happy and nobody feels like they're being nickel-and-dimed.

On 2026-03-09 11:55:38 Madame Vespera said:
It's actually interesting how quickly the conversation shifted from the topic of tipping to trying to insult someone personally.

Thank You Madame, I also don't know how it went from one thing to me being insulted. I also saw your post on the other thread and madame you get it. Your opinion is appreciated...

On 2026-03-08 07:36:40 Jordan said:
But you tip your waitress and the guy washing your window at the petrol station?

Is that how you reason or think everyday?

On 2026-03-09 11:55:38 Madame Vespera said:

The "are you poor?" argument is also a bit strange.

Oh...I thought it was funny. Probably depends on your mental state, how you perceive it.

Love your pictures though.

On 2026-03-09 12:28:19 Minime V10.1 said:
On 2026-03-09 11:55:38 Madame Vespera said:
The "are you poor?" argument is also a bit strange.

Oh...I thought it was funny. Probably depends on your mental state, how you perceive it.

It's funny as hell, but most likely true. Not everyone with money tips, but only brokies would complain about other men who want to spoil us.

On 2026-03-09 11:55:38 Madame Vespera said:
It's actually interesting how quickly the conversation shifted from the topic of tipping to trying to insult someone personally.

I was thinking the same thing. Your maturity is refreshing. Thanks

Taking gifts for regulars is understandable, but tipping I am not convinced. After all you are regulars for each others and a drink or ice cream tub or even a keychain is good. Whether you take on all visits, is upto you.

For once off bookings to an independent operator, a small gift, a trinket or even a R100 bottle of wine/couple beers will be appreciated.

For girls operating from a venue, I do not know the maths of the fees breakdowns, but there gifting/tipping can be done as it is expected that not all that you pay goes to the girls.

Girls should also appreciate whatever the punter brings in. Due to the discreet nature of the meeting, time management, logistics challenges and of course financial strain it may not be possible to gift/tip at all, so pls do not think lowly of the punter. They are your cusotmers providing your bread and butter after all. Also, you have quoted your price for the service asked for.

My 10c

On 2026-03-09 12:01:53 Bonganelovejoy said:


I also don't know how it went from one thing to me being insulted.

Food for thought you can't go around insulting others then not expect the same in return especially on a platform like this remember what you do unto others will always return back to you...

On 2026-03-09 12:01:53 Bonganelovejoy said:
On 2026-03-09 11:55:38 Madame Vespera said: It's actually interesting how quickly the conversation shifted from the topic of tipping to trying to insult someone personally.


Thank You Madame, I also don't know how it went from one thing to me being insulted. I also saw your post on the other thread and madame you get it. Your opinion is appreciated...

it's interesting how quickly a simple discussion or different opinion can turn into insults. Personally, I try not to take offence too easily , words spoken in irritation usually say more about the moment someone is in than about the person they are speaking to... to be clear I was speaking in general terms after reading the thread.. Apologies if my opinion insulted anyone.

Disagreement is perfectly normal. But hurting people simply because they think differently rarely adds anything meaningful to a conversation.

Many traditions speak about the law of karma , the idea that what we put out into the world, especially through our intentions and actions, eventually finds its way back to us. When we respond with hostility, we tend to create more of it. When we respond with a little patience or grace, the tone of the space often shifts.

So perhaps it's enough to say: we can disagree without trying to wound one another.