On 2025-05-31 21:35:31 Kourtney B said:
I completely understand why so many ladies lately require a deposit and from what I can gage it will become more of the norm as time goes on.

A deposit is unlikely to ever become the norm.

Last 3 SPs I saw all had no reviews on their profile. I would've not seen them had they asked for a deposit.

A deposit only works if you're well reviewed and there's something niche about your service.

On 2025-06-01 07:53:19 ASASH said:
Doubt seasoned punters will ever pay a deposit. Too many horror stories about the deposit situation. Besides majority of punters are in some form of relationship. Last thing one wants is a paper trail. Too many tracking options these days besides.

I can't help but notice how biased this is. You said everything about how it affects punters negatively. Their horror stories,their relationships and their privacy. What about the service providers'?

I work by appointment and only go to work when I have confirmed bookings,and leave immediately after unless if I'm booked shortly after that.

My horror story? This week, I spent over R600 in Uber in 4 days, from home/work to meet clients that book,confirm and never pitch or have the decency to say something. My relationships?I'm family oriented. My siblings mean the world to me.But I have cancelled a milkshakes and burger's date with my little brother because a client confirmed a booking and never pitched. I have missed a bus to a cousins wedding celebration because I took a booking that never happened. It's unfortunate that being stood up happens even with outcalls. I can go on and on..
Do you know how our privacy and confidentiality is compromised? When I've sent you my location, and the unit number, especially when you're booking for the 1st time. I can't explain how unsettling that is. Worse for some of the ladies that share their face pictures upon request. You know my body, my face, the building I work from and my unit number, but I don't know you, nor have I met you. How do I know you were genuinely booking or targeting me to harm me, because it happens week in and out?

The most strange thing I have observed from some clients is that they'd rather book in advance to secure their spot so you don't take other bookings. Than to check availability and book already on their way to you. To avoid disappointment I assume,the disappointment we're meant to accept and normalize. One day, we will discuss this platform's double standards.

I know we are here to cater to your fantasies, amongst other things, but our lives, our lives aren't.

Even if it's just for a second, put yourself in an escort's heels.

Anyways, everyone, have a good day. Just came back from my pilates class, feeling great, come through for some spoils, only if you're gonna pitch lol. I'm serious.

Love ya.

On 2025-06-01 09:16:25 Meilin said:
On 2025-06-01 07:53:19 ASASH said: Doubt seasoned punters will ever pay a deposit. Too many horror stories about the deposit situation. Besides majority of punters are in some form of relationship. Last thing one wants is a paper trail. Too many tracking options these days besides.



I can't help but notice how biased this is. You said everything about how it affects punters negatively. Their horror stories,their relationships and their privacy. What about the service providers'?

I work by appointment and only go to work when I have confirmed bookings,and leave immediately after unless if I'm booked shortly after that.

My horror story? This week, I spent over R600 in Uber in 4 days, from home/work to meet clients that book,confirm and never pitch or have the decency to say something. My relationships?I'm family oriented. My siblings mean the world to me.But I have cancelled a milkshakes and burger's date with my little brother because a client confirmed a booking and never pitched. I have missed a bus to a cousins wedding celebration because I took a booking that never happened. It's unfortunate that being stood up happens even with outcalls. I can go on and on..
Do you know how our privacy and confidentiality is compromised? When I've sent you my location, and the unit number, especially when you're booking for the 1st time. I can't explain how unsettling that is. Worse for some of the ladies that share their face pictures upon request. You know my body, my face, the building I work from and my unit number, but I don't know you, nor have I met you. How do I know you were genuinely booking or targeting me to harm me, because it happens week in and out?

The most strange thing I have observed from some clients is that they'd rather book in advance to secure their spot so you don't take other bookings. Than to check availability and book already on their way to you. To avoid disappointment I assume,the disappointment we're meant to accept and normalize. One day, we will discuss this platform's double standards.

I know we are here to cater to your fantasies, amongst other things, but our lives, our lives aren't.

Even if it's just for a second, put yourself in an escort's heels.

Anyways, everyone, have a good day. Just came back from my pilates class, feeling great, come through for some spoils, only if you're gonna pitch lol. I'm serious.

Love ya.

Perhaps think of a career change then. Maybe this isnt for you.

On 2025-06-01 09:13:33 FrecklesLover said:
On 2025-05-31 21:35:31 Kourtney B said: I completely understand why so many ladies lately require a deposit and from what I can gage it will become more of the norm as time goes on.


A deposit is unlikely to ever become the norm.

Last 3 SPs I saw all had no reviews on their profile. I would've not seen them had they asked for a deposit.

A deposit only works if you're well reviewed and there's something niche about your service.

Dude even with well reviewed SPs this can happen.

I recall a situation with a seasoned punter.

www.esa.co.za/forum/thread.php

On 2025-06-01 09:20:08 ASASH said:
On 2025-06-01 09:16:25 Meilin said: On 2025-06-01 07:53:19 ASASH said: Doubt seasoned punters will ever pay a deposit. Too many horror stories about the deposit situation. Besides majority of punters are in some form of relationship. Last thing one wants is a paper trail. Too many tracking options these days besides.



I can't help but notice how biased this is. You said everything about how it affects punters negatively. Their horror stories,their relationships and their privacy. What about the service providers'?

I work by appointment and only go to work when I have confirmed bookings,and leave immediately after unless if I'm booked shortly after that.

My horror story? This week, I spent over R600 in Uber in 4 days, from home/work to meet clients that book,confirm and never pitch or have the decency to say something. My relationships?I'm family oriented. My siblings mean the world to me.But I have cancelled a milkshakes and burger's date with my little brother because a client confirmed a booking and never pitched. I have missed a bus to a cousins wedding celebration because I took a booking that never happened. It's unfortunate that being stood up happens even with outcalls. I can go on and on..
Do you know how our privacy and confidentiality is compromised? When I've sent you my location, and the unit number, especially when you're booking for the 1st time. I can't explain how unsettling that is. Worse for some of the ladies that share their face pictures upon request. You know my body, my face, the building I work from and my unit number, but I don't know you, nor have I met you. How do I know you were genuinely booking or targeting me to harm me, because it happens week in and out?

The most strange thing I have observed from some clients is that they'd rather book in advance to secure their spot so you don't take other bookings. Than to check availability and book already on their way to you. To avoid disappointment I assume,the disappointment we're meant to accept and normalize. One day, we will discuss this platform's double standards.

I know we are here to cater to your fantasies, amongst other things, but our lives, our lives aren't.

Even if it's just for a second, put yourself in an escort's heels.

Anyways, everyone, have a good day. Just came back from my pilates class, feeling great, come through for some spoils, only if you're gonna pitch lol. I'm serious.

Love ya.



Perhaps think of a career change then. Maybe this isnt for you.

I do have a career. I do, sorry if you thought everyone who's here only does this. Another thing is, this is for me. It is. But not every client is, I fortunately know that for a fact.

On 2025-06-01 09:25:58 Meilin said:
On 2025-06-01 09:20:08 ASASH said: On 2025-06-01 09:16:25 Meilin said: On 2025-06-01 07:53:19 ASASH said: Doubt seasoned punters will ever pay a deposit. Too many horror stories about the deposit situation. Besides majority of punters are in some form of relationship. Last thing one wants is a paper trail. Too many tracking options these days besides.



I can't help but notice how biased this is. You said everything about how it affects punters negatively. Their horror stories,their relationships and their privacy. What about the service providers'?

I work by appointment and only go to work when I have confirmed bookings,and leave immediately after unless if I'm booked shortly after that.

My horror story? This week, I spent over R600 in Uber in 4 days, from home/work to meet clients that book,confirm and never pitch or have the decency to say something. My relationships?I'm family oriented. My siblings mean the world to me.But I have cancelled a milkshakes and burger's date with my little brother because a client confirmed a booking and never pitched. I have missed a bus to a cousins wedding celebration because I took a booking that never happened. It's unfortunate that being stood up happens even with outcalls. I can go on and on..
Do you know how our privacy and confidentiality is compromised? When I've sent you my location, and the unit number, especially when you're booking for the 1st time. I can't explain how unsettling that is. Worse for some of the ladies that share their face pictures upon request. You know my body, my face, the building I work from and my unit number, but I don't know you, nor have I met you. How do I know you were genuinely booking or targeting me to harm me, because it happens week in and out?

The most strange thing I have observed from some clients is that they'd rather book in advance to secure their spot so you don't take other bookings. Than to check availability and book already on their way to you. To avoid disappointment I assume,the disappointment we're meant to accept and normalize. One day, we will discuss this platform's double standards.

I know we are here to cater to your fantasies, amongst other things, but our lives, our lives aren't.

Even if it's just for a second, put yourself in an escort's heels.

Anyways, everyone, have a good day. Just came back from my pilates class, feeling great, come through for some spoils, only if you're gonna pitch lol. I'm serious.

Love ya.



Perhaps think of a career change then. Maybe this isnt for you.

I do have a career. I do, sorry if you thought everyone who's here only does this. Another thing is, this is for me. It is. But not every client is, I fortunately know that for a fact.

Okay then perhaps think of prioritising properly. Missing out on milkshakes and weddings has more to do with your values than work ethic.

Money can be made but those moments not really.

Ubering to and from appointments also is a bit of a you problem, maybe think of getting to work in the morning and staying at work until your "shift" ends. Not everyone is so priviledged.

Take a taxi/bus at 5am to get to work like majority of the population for a 5k a month salary after deductions.

Being at the venue, at the time a client has booked, is a priority because this is one of my streams of income. 2.It's respecting someone's time and honoring their request to meet and spend their time with you. 3. Time they're paying for. Remember some clients actually book and show up?

Irrespective of it being a milkshake date or wedding, the essence is time, because I can do it all when time is managed. Thinking that you can guilt trip me to thinking that my priorities and values aren't in order is not gonna work, I'm very self aware, you can't tell me about me ASASH.

You're right about money and moments, invalid point when you have reliable clients that book and actually pitch, and you can go spend that money creating moments for life. Balance.

On 2025-06-01 09:35:19 ASASH said:
Ubering to and from appointments also is a bit of a you problem, maybe think of getting to work in the morning and staying at work until your "shift" ends. Not everyone is so priviledged.

Take a taxi/bus at 5am to get to work like majority of the population for a 5k a month salary after deductions.

I did mention that I have a career. Not every SP can afford to sit at a venue the whole day waiting for bookings. A lot of independent SPs do this, because flexibility is where it's at. Also, it's a short distance from home or the office to where I work from, the amount spent just shows how many times it happened.

That advice about a taxi/bus makes so much sense after all your comments on this post, lol.SHM.

On 2025-06-01 09:43:03 Meilin said:
Being at the venue, at the time a client has booked, is a priority because this is one of my streams of income. 2.It's respecting someone's time and honoring their request to meet and spend their time with you. 3. Time they're paying for. Remember some clients actually book and show up?

Irrespective of it being a milkshake date or wedding, the essence is time, because I can do it all when time is managed. Thinking that you can guilt trip me to thinking that my priorities and values aren't in order is not gonna work, I'm very self aware, you can't tell me about me ASASH.

You're right about money and moments, invalid point when you have reliable clients that book and actually pitch, and you can go spend that money creating moments for life. Balance.

Dear Meilin,

I am not trying to guilt trip you, I am telling you the reality. This money generator of yours is one of the oldest professions, it was not always venue based. Cash is King. The cash dictates where and when it will part. You still young.. its not time... its money... is that milkshake or wedding more important to you then waiting for the punter whether he pitched or not.

You not as selfaware as you think.

The milkshake might have cost you some time and some money. But the meaning of spending that time with a loved one even for 30 minutes is pricelss right.

But me a stranger spending 60 minutes with you has a price.

And guess what I will be the one to make the payment so if i have something more important to do at that time that i had a booking. Like having a milkshake with a colleague i wont even think about the booking at the time, i might not even be able to let you know if i wanted to cause my punting phone is not with me and you may not take private calls.

Just some clarity, remember this profession used to be at ports and in the streets and in brothels easily available for those that wanted to nake money. Some do it to feed families, some do it to keep up appearances and buy Gucci Enjoy your day.