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Posted: 2025-11-24 15:57:21

On 2025-11-23 18:47:47 R2D4 said:
People feel more comfortable with their own kind and its not racism.

If I was a wg I would also have a ROAR policy, cultures are different, different races and ethnicities have biological preferences and tendencies, some things may be acceptable to one group of people and abhorrent to another. Humans are shaped by experience, a person could have had a handful of negative experience with a particular race that caused them to have a negative view of all people of an entire race.

I dont punt certain races, I dont rent out my property to certain races including my own, I dont do business with certain races, I dont hire people of certain races.



This is basically word salad to say you're a bigot. Got it. Nothing new. It's SA after all.
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Posted: 2025-11-24 16:19:36
Edited: 2025-11-24 16:28:49

On 2025-11-24 15:57:21 Bobby Z said:


This is basically word salad to say you're a bigot. Got it. Nothing new. It's SA after all.



A bigot is a person who holds unreasonable opinions or beliefs, mine are not unreasonable. I apologise for having an opinion that differs from yours.
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Posted: 2025-11-24 17:18:06

On 2025-11-24 16:19:36 R2D4 said:
On 2025-11-24 15:57:21 Bobby Z said:

This is basically word salad to say you're a bigot. Got it. Nothing new. It's SA after all.

A bigot is a person who holds unreasonable opinions or beliefs, mine are not unreasonable. I apologise for having an opinion that differs from yours.



SneakyOctopuss just wrote a damn treatise on why your opinions*ARE* unreasonable. And he's not wrong about plumbing new depths of idiocy.

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Posted: 2025-11-24 19:03:35
Edited: 2025-11-24 19:44:33

On 2025-11-24 17:18:06 Teletubby said:
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SneakyOctopuss just wrote a damn treatise on why your opinions*ARE* unreasonable. And he's not wrong about plumbing new depths of idiocy.



Which opinions are those Sheila?

What kind of idiot writes a treatise on a sex site and what kind of idiots read it and take it seriously? Only you...

i read his "treatise" and now I am trying to determine who the bigger idiot is, you or him?

Lol , here is an npc idiot calling other people idiots. You were stupid enough to study philosophy in an academic setting. Keep flipping burgers simp. Everything about you screams simp, your entire identity revolves around being acceptable and having a persona that will be socially acceptable. You have not yet evolved to the point of being an authentic individual. I bet you are not even 35. You are not capable of any critical or original thinking. Stick to flipping burgers and being a keyboard warrior because you would get snapped if you even thought about saying anything to me in person.
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Posted: 2025-11-24 19:33:32
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dumbass who like writing essays, my "point" was that everyone has prejudices and I was not justifying that, just pointing it out.

[QUOTE;5796047;SneakyOctopuss]
Lol. We're really plumbing new depths of idiocy now.

Prejudice doesn't require opinions to be formed "out of thin air." It's what happens when someone stops judging individuals and starts leaning on whatever traits they've decided belong to the group --- even if that decision came from a couple of random encounters. A handful of bad interactions with a few people of a particular race doesn't turn into insight about the entire race; it turns into the textbook definition of prejudice.

The whole "but it's based on my experience" excuse doesn't salvage anything. All you're doing is jumping from person A to every person who shares their race and pretending that's sound logic. Person A's behaviour tells you precisely one thing: how person A behaved. It has absolutely zero predictive power for person B, C, D, or the next ten million people in that category.

If someone gets cut off by three drivers in red cars and concludes that red-car owners are universally reckless knobs, nobody applauds them for drawing conclusions from "actual experience." They get mocked for connecting dots that don't connect. You're doing the same thing, just with higher stakes and more confidence.

Anecdotes don't magically transform a stereotype into a fact. They only tell us where the stereotype came from --- not whether it's worth anything.

And please, spare everyone the "people aren't statisticians" defence. You don't need a statistics degree to recognise that five interactions can't possibly describe millions of people. This isn't rocket science --- it's the lowest possible bar for not making ridiculous, sweeping assumptions about entire populations.
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Lol, the level of idiocy in this idiots post is astounding.

[QUOTE;5796047;SneakyOctopuss]
Lol. We're really plumbing new depths of idiocy now.

Prejudice doesn't require opinions to be formed "out of thin air." It's what happens when someone stops judging individuals and starts leaning on whatever traits they've decided belong to the group --- even if that decision came from a couple of random encounters. A handful of bad interactions with a few people of a particular race doesn't turn into insight about the entire race; it turns into the textbook definition of prejudice.[/QUOTE]

My point is that everyone has prejudices and its impossible to expect people to be free from prejudice.

[QUOTE;5796047;SneakyOctopuss]
The whole "but it's based on my experience" excuse doesn't salvage anything. All you're doing is jumping from person A to every person who shares their race and pretending that's sound logic. Person A's behaviour tells you precisely one thing: how person A behaved. It has absolutely zero predictive power for person B, C, D, or the next ten million people in that category.
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So statistically if a certain group of people has a disproportionately high and statistically significant chance of exhibiting certain tendencies (all other variables being equal), it is not reasonable to infer a higher criminality from that particular group?

On a different but related note, I want to ask you a few questions and i want you to give me an honest response:
1- are all cultural values equal?
2- do you have sexual preferences for particular races?
3- why did sub-saharan africa not develop any written language or invent the wheel until the 19th century?
4- If you take a random sample of a 1000 apples out of a million and 800 out of 1000 of those apples were rotten, is it unreasonable to think that the majority of the apples in the batch are rotten?

[QUOTE;5796047;SneakyOctopuss] If someone gets cut off by three drivers in red cars and concludes that red-car owners are universally reckless knobs, nobody applauds them for drawing conclusions from "actual experience." They get mocked for connecting dots that don't connect. You're doing the same thing, just with higher stakes and more confidence.[/QUOTE]

that's what YOU think I am doing because you are a Dodo...but what I am doing is taking a random sample of a significant quality from the population and removing other variables and making a statistically significant conclusion.

[QUOTE;5796047;SneakyOctopuss] A handful of bad interactions with a few people of a particular race doesn't turn into insight about the entire race; it turns into the textbook definition of prejudice.[/QUOTE]

who said anything about a handful of interactions? where are you getting 5 from? what an idiot. You are making a lot of baseless assumptions. People like you are exactly the reason why the developed world is going to shit because you cant actually think.


So in conclusion we should avoid forming opinions even when they are based on statistically significant reasoning ?

So to summarise since you are so dense, my reasoning is that if I get robbed 7 out of 10 times that I venture into hillbrow, I should assume that I am likely to get robbed if I venture into hillbrow, is that unreasonable?
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Posted: 2025-11-24 20:12:18

On 2025-11-24 16:19:36 R2D4 said:
On 2025-11-24 15:57:21 Bobby Z said:

This is basically word salad to say you're a bigot. Got it. Nothing new. It's SA after all.

A bigot is a person who holds unreasonable opinions or beliefs, mine are not unreasonable. I apologise for having an opinion that differs from yours.



Your pretence of intellectual superiority is fascinating. You use a lot of words, yet they simply reveal a mind limited by prejudice & paucity of imagination. It is, perhaps, a mercy that you are in no way clever enough to understand how profoundly stupid you truly are.
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Posted: 2025-11-24 20:20:15

On 2025-11-24 15:32:44 SneakyOctopuss said:



Lol. We're really plumbing new depths of idiocy now.


Yes, it would indeed seem that you are an actual idiot.


On 2025-11-24 15:32:44 SneakyOctopuss said:
Prejudice doesn't require opinions to be formed "out of thin air."


Who said it did?

[QUOTE;5796047;SneakyOctopuss]
It's what happens when someone stops judging individuals and starts leaning on whatever traits they've decided belong to the group --- even if that decision came from a couple of random encounters.
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and what about when its formed through a informed significant process and is exhibited by a significant percentage of the group and not merely based on what you have decided belong to the group?

[QUOTE;5796047;SneakyOctopuss]A handful of bad interactions with a few people of a particular race doesn't turn into insight about the entire race; it turns into the textbook definition of prejudice.[/QUOTE]
Again my dear idiot, nobody said it would. You are jumping to conclusions. You are just misrepresenting my arguments because you are a donkey.

[QUOTE;5796047;SneakyOctopuss]The whole "but it's based on my experience" excuse doesn't salvage anything.[/QUOTE]
Salvage what and why?

[QUOTE;5796047;SneakyOctopuss]All you're doing is jumping from person A to every person who shares their race and pretending that's sound logic. Person A's behaviour tells you precisely one thing: how person A behaved. It has absolutely zero predictive power for person B, C, D, or the next ten million people in that category.[/QUOTE]
dur dur dur, shut up you donkey...that was not even my argument, again, another straw man.

[QUOTE;5796047;SneakyOctopuss]If someone gets cut off by three drivers in red cars and concludes that red-car owners are universally reckless knobs, nobody applauds them for drawing conclusions from "actual experience." They get mocked for connecting dots that don't connect. You're doing the same thing, just with higher stakes and more confidence.


Anecdotes don't magically transform a stereotype into a fact. They only tell us where the stereotype came from --- not whether it's worth anything.[/QUOTE]

ironic considering your whole response to me was connecting the dots where there were none - what a fukin clown.

[QUOTE;5796047;SneakyOctopuss]And please, spare everyone the "people aren't statisticians" defence. You don't need a statistics degree to recognise that five interactions can't possibly describe millions of people. This isn't rocket science --- it's the lowest possible bar for not making ridiculous, sweeping assumptions about entire populations.
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Nobody said anything about 5 interactions you muppet ...again nothing but straw man arguments.
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Posted: 2025-11-24 20:25:13

As much as my younger self would hate it, R2D2 has a point.

My real life experience and the stats align. I saw this when I went overseas.

Us melatinated ppl have no sense of responsibility for our actions and its time to stop making excuses.

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Posted: 2025-11-24 20:25:25
Edited: 2025-11-24 20:34:35

On 2025-11-24 20:12:18 JP82 said:
On 2025-11-24 16:19:36 R2D4 said: On 2025-11-24 15:57:21 Bobby Z said:

This is basically word salad to say you're a bigot. Got it. Nothing new. It's SA after all.

A bigot is a person who holds unreasonable opinions or beliefs, mine are not unreasonable. I apologise for having an opinion that differs from yours.

Your pretence of intellectual superiority is fascinating. You use a lot of words, yet they simply reveal a mind limited by prejudice & paucity of imagination. It is, perhaps, a mercy that you are in no way clever enough to understand how profoundly stupid you truly are.



Don't worry JPee, I am a lot smarter than your depressed ass could ever be. You have been quiet for a while, were you lurking all this time? I thought you would have deleted yourself by now considering how miserable you are? Nothing and I mean nothing beats your stupidity when you went to visit a young wg and poured your heart out to her only for her to reject you and you to react by claiming she stole your money. You are poor depressed and stupid JP, and you will always be that. You are as incapable of understanding or relating to others as you are of understanding yourself. You are a poor sad wreck of a human being.

Now crawl back to the shadows where you belong. Every time I smash you, you have a nervous breakdown, I am not sure you can handle any more so run along while you still can.
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Posted: 2025-11-24 20:31:42

On 2025-11-24 20:25:13 MambaReturns said:
As much as my younger self would hate it, R2D2 has a point.

My real life experience and the stats align. I saw this when I went overseas.

Us melatinated ppl have no sense of responsibility for our actions and its time to stop making excuses.



I did not say anything about any particular race, i was pointing out that we all have prejudices, biological tendencies, traits etc.

We are no different from animals, we breed animals for certain traits but will not acknowledge that when it comes to humans certain groups share traits, as soon as you do you are labelled a racist or a bigot by the simps.

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