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Posted: 2020-03-13 00:05:54

one swallow will not make it summer
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Posted: 2020-03-13 06:33:33

No, but there are more swallows. She is just the only one singing at the moment ":)

Go Mads go!! Your logic is sound:))
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Posted: 2020-03-13 06:52:38

Why would ANY punter pay over R700 for an average looking girl with an attitude to go with that of a princess who thinks her vagina is gold plated?


Let the truth be spoken Madison...

Out asap never to return.

Unfortunately both my regulars left last year. So im down from twice a month to once every 2 months and really battling to find suitable replacement. Not willing to settle for sub standard service as money not plenty anymore....
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Posted: 2020-03-13 08:27:05

On 2020-03-12 23:16:37 Madison said:
Girls don't need degrees in this industry, although the majority should get one or Atleast do a short course in marketing or business management.

through out the years I've seen girls treat clients in the most disgusting manner, those good old days where venues were busy and girls were making money, they were charging R500 p/h.

This industry has become the ticking time bomb because there is no screening process! Girls who looked like trolls started demanding more and more money while giving less and less of a service, I've seen the attitudes that get thrown around here, each girl upping their prices to out do the next, each venue charging more and more to justify taking half or more of the booking money from the girls.

Logically salaries have NOT increased in SA from a decade ago high enough to justify the charges that most venues and girls charge, which has almost tripled since then.

Why would ANY punter pay over R700 for an average looking girl with an attitude to go with that of a princess who thinks her vagina is gold plated? And I've been around enough venues and girls to know , punters get taken for a ride. So ofcourse men have become more select in whom they choose to see. I don't think it's the economies fault, I don't think penises have read the stock market or the financial times, I think after years of being treated badly and being given bad service while prices increased to that of seeing a specialist with a 7 year degree, it's all culminated in the industry literally working itself out the market. There are a few girls I know who still make their money and average 4 clients a day . But they don't cop attitudes, they take care of themselves and they don't overcharge. And it's not the same clients everyday.

I have NO doubt men are feeling the pinch more and more and maybe punting less and less , but sp are feeling it because they already have a reputation and when you've given bad service in the past, whether you are charging R1000 or R200 it will not make any difference, you won't see clients whether they have the money or not. Same as venues, most punters avoid venues for the problems that go with them. Ask punters and it's not "money" that's the first issue, it's the privacy, the drugs, the raids, the line ups , ect ect.

Granted few but there are still SP making money.



Well described.. Men have disposable income. What they do not have is patience for nonsense. There is a lot of competition for our cash. And some ladies have not adapted well to it.

Also men are more open in talking about what is going on and how they are conned of their cash.. So a bad service travels fast.

Privacy is also key. We keep seeing more and more reports of people being blackmailed.

Have done the blessers thing myself and there one also sees people being blackmailed but that market is growing dramatically. Further competition for the SP. Some of those women have two men going and people are happy to pay R2000 a week for the idea of a girlfriend on the side. Considering that most of those women are either uni students or women with a full time employment, the experience is whole different from punting.

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Posted: 2020-03-13 08:30:22

On 2020-03-11 19:05:16 Veronica Franco said:
On 2020-03-11 09:12:14 Davistarr said:

I know of ladies that easily clear more monthly than most punters, have kids, pay their bonds and cars in advance regularly instead of supporting the 'dwelms' industry, so if the shoe fits, wear it cos there are wgs and mgs out there that have their priorities in order not reverse...

Although I understand your comment was a dig at me, still a dick thing to say as there are many ladies that don't touch substances. My daily life involves interacting with various ladies and seeing the struggles and successes. You pay your money, have a bit of pillow talk with SPs and go home. Don't assume you know anything about us, because you only see what we want you to see at the end of the day!



I don't even know u, have never booked u so nope, it was general statement on wat i noticed, it was actually a new lady on esa that now gone that route...

U know the rule, think b4 u speak, in this industry,it can only hurt u
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Posted: 2020-03-13 08:30:43

On 2020-03-13 06:33:33 ystervark said:
No, but there are more swallows. She is just the only one singing at the moment ":)

Go Mads go!! Your logic is sound:))



The ones making cash are quiet. :)

Maddison logic is sound and reflects what I have seen all over the world. This is an old profession that now has mutated into a free for all. Competition is high. Not just in SA.. All over the world.
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Posted: 2020-03-13 11:52:06
Edited: 2020-03-13 11:55:20

On 2020-03-12 23:16:37 Madison said:



...I don't think penises have read the stock market or the financial times,...

Granted few but there are still SP making money.



Madison...great to hear a new voice, have a fresh very pretty face and Sexily Scrumptious Body on this Forum!

AND she speaks so much SENSE!!!

HeHehe... I like in particular your comment about penises not following the stock markets...

I agree... this is the oldest profession in the world for good reason... and we all know why!

I have always considered the Punting industry and Liquor industry to be in the same category.... If you invest or go into business in either you can't go wrong.

When times are good people, and men in particular although not exclusively, splash out, party, celebrate their successes!!

When things are down they drown their sorrows by drinking or punting, finding temporary relief in either or both...!!

So you can't go wrong, yes, in either industry you will come out a winner no matter the state of the economy...!!

Having said that, I do perceive a more frantic trend recently by SPs promoting discounts and offering new or additional services such as Anal for the same rate as for example a standard FH.

So yes things appear from this Forum a little more desperate out there for SPs!
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Posted: 2020-03-13 11:56:39

On 2020-03-13 11:52:06 ouman punter said:


I have always considered the Punting industry and Liquor industry to be in the same category.... If you invest or go into business in either you can't go wrong.



You missed gambling. Women.. Drink.. And gambling.. Those three will make money any day of the week.. And if done properly it is very hard to tax it..
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Posted: 2020-03-13 12:11:22

Agreed...gambling falls in the same category, except gambling can be Very hit or miss when it comes to celebrating or drowning one's sorrows! So can punting now that I think about it, should one strike a bad or poor service SP by chance...;))
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Posted: 2020-03-13 12:27:52
Edited: 2020-03-13 12:29:55

On 2020-03-12 23:58:30 Henry Mo said:
all the client say they spend less and mostly all wg say the industry is much quiet except you. it would be good to hear from other busy wg besides you





I know a few who are like Madison still very busy. Ladies with active ESA profiles.

It's up to them if they want to comment or not. At least one of them never bothers to read the forum at all. She never comments either on her profile. Yet I struggle to get a booking at a timeslot that suits me.


Interestingly the ones I know of who are constantly busy and among my favs are all between R800 and R1000 an hour. All gorgeous and providing excellent service

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