I must say that Le Belles response does make sense to a certain degree but remember we not here for love. It's a business transaction. Period. I also think this is a lucrative business in disguise. There are more and more ladies advertising under massage these days cause they can choose who to fck and who not to. Choice they can make. I might sound sexy over the phone and smell and look otherwise when I get there. I get that too. Then once being rubbed down we all horny etc get told to transfer 1k extra and my cock says yes. It's a win win for the venue and lady. We continue to go back and get fcked all over again. Venue stays busy and the lady makes a killing too. Where does that leave the punter......? Fcked.

On 2023-01-24 10:35:28 Need4Passion said:
I didn't read any of the replies, just replying to the original post.

In general if it's unclear, give it a hard pass. I only book if I'm able to clarify and confirm what I am getting what I want at a price I'm willing to pay.

Anything involving "discuss in the room" is just a surefire way to
1. get you to pay more than you would have booking with a clear non-blood filled little head or
2. for you to get told that services you wanted are now withdrawn or not on offer.

Remember, this is not dating where you try and take what you can get.

This is a transaction where you pay for what you want. Without the clarity upfront, it's like booking breakfast and the seller can decide after the booking whether you get Kellogg's, Bokomo, yoghurt, or a full on English breakfast and also to charge you whatever they feel after you sit down to eat.

N4P

Exactly my point, without a set price who's to stop SP's from charging ridiculous rates on their extras?
That and who's to stop them from charging different clients different amounts which I know they already but with some of the reasons that I've heard, my word...yeah no, just no.
The excuse of "we charge higher to compensate" isn't good enough, because now not only are making prices up based on your feelings, you're most likely going to deliver poor service due to the fact that you don't enjoy doing it. Rather don't do it and say you don't do it that way everything is more clear prior to the booking.

If any new WG/SP is reading this, be upfront, take some time and make a list of your do's and don'ts and if a client enquires about your services, send them the list and let them make an informed decision. This at the end of the day is business whether you like it or not and like any business, you will succeed if you focus on improving your "skills" and improving the quality of your service. Stop chasing money and let money chase you.

On 2023-01-24 12:58:11 gavinf007 said:
I must say that Le Belles response does make sense to a certain degree but remember we not here for love. It's a business transaction. Period. I also think this is a lucrative business in disguise. There are more and more ladies advertising under massage these days cause they can choose who to fck and who not to. Choice they can make. I might sound sexy over the phone and smell and look otherwise when I get there. I get that too. Then once being rubbed down we all horny etc get told to transfer 1k extra and my cock says yes. It's a win win for the venue and lady. We continue to go back and get fcked all over again. Venue stays busy and the lady makes a killing too. Where does that leave the punter......? Fcked.

Like Drake said in Lemon Pepper Freestyle, "FACTS"

To the OP...im sorry bud but currently the Wgs / Venues win this one.

In principle....This is one of those: "between a rock and a hard place" situations.

From the Venue and Sp's viewpoint....Their reasonings are valid;

*They dont have time to explain every girls do's and dont's .

*Consider it a modified ROAR-policy - except they WILL see you if you put up the cash- and although your experience may vary depending on factors such as hygiene, etc....Just call it "Chemistry"

*They are here to make money...yes booking periods are gen in the 30minute(+ increments zone)...but you can also add another 30min or more to the booking period if the punter feels like cancelling after 5 minutes.There are Simply not enough hours in a day to allow for this kind of service.... their buisness model would be stupid if they allowed this.

From the Punter's viewpoint.....

*Yes why they f#ck do you want to go to a Restaurant with a "secret" menu?

*These type of venues are a letdown - even if you go for stictly Massage...and decline the extras ..you will more than likely notice a subtle change in service or possibly even a drastic drop in the experience once you take the std option.

*And yes Venues(although claiming innocence) can and do abuse that "Extras in the Room" clause.

My 2 cents:

This is where the old-school lineup method had its crude but effective way of quickly deciding if the punt would be a yay or nay. There was always that one gal who introduced herself and teasinlgy described her services and with a glint in her eye and a wicked smile..you knew you would be making the right choice.

But it is defn the reason why alot of seasoned punters are not fans of certain venues these days.

But it takes time(a few years) for a punter to gain that experience...and there are far more new suckers entering the market than old hands leaving it at any given time.

Were the "Rock vs Hard place " debate fails here -->

is simple economics ....

The Willing buyer/Willing Seller Principle

Unfortunately...The WGS and Venues will win this one...as there are too many dumb punters who will go there regardless. Ie way more buyers than sellers - so the position of power - will always favour the SPs


Consider it the Corollary Law of the Jungle....the weak will perish and like the casino, It's Their House, Their Rules!


In this case if you really rhink about it..the problem isnt the SPs..its the Punter...there are simply far too many of us

On 2023-01-24 12:58:11 gavinf007 said:
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There are more and more ladies advertising under massage these days cause they can choose who to fck and who not to....

I didn't read that response since it was long but I can say the punter is paying to fuck who they want to, not the other way around.

It's not dating. It's a way for guys to get who or what they usually can't in the dating scene at a fee to him.

N4P

Agree 100%

On 2023-01-24 10:35:28 Need4Passion said:
I didn't read any of the replies, just replying to the original post.

In general if it's unclear, give it a hard pass. I only book if I'm able to clarify and confirm what I am getting what I want at a price I'm willing to pay.

Anything involving "discuss in the room" is just a surefire way to
1. get you to pay more than you would have booking with a clear non-blood filled little head or
2. for you to get told that services you wanted are now withdrawn or not on offer.

Remember, this is not dating where you try and take what you can get.

This is a transaction where you pay for what you want. Without the clarity upfront, it's like booking breakfast and the seller can decide after the booking whether you get Kellogg's, Bokomo, yoghurt, or a full on English breakfast and also to charge you whatever they feel after you sit down to eat.

N4P