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Posted: 2016-11-11 13:36:15

On 2016-11-09 16:06:25 Russian Bridgitte said:
I would rather say....nothing to do with the fact that America is not ready for a woman president.
But.
Rather...they have woken up. Sick and tired of being lied to ignored for decades and their monies used in war- mongering affairs.
Their desperation obvious. Trump spoke from the heart....an American wanting the American dream to be real again.
A difficult difficult road ahead of him.
Strength to him.

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Yet he is planning on significantly increasing military spending ? Why would you need to spend more if you are pulling back from active conflict position ?
Logic failure.

Most of his policies are logical failures, but sure, he appealed to the populist agenda of isolationism and self interest, at the cost of internal race relations, the US economy and their international commitments to the environment.

The only thing I can agree with him is his Drain the Swamp plan, but that isn't going to work with the current houses being staffed by people who would have already exceeded their mandate. So it means in reality that nothing changes.

Regression instead of progression ! The Trump way.
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Posted: 2016-11-13 12:00:53

Just a quick scanning of population ratio

Please note these figures i have obtained from
www.infoplease.com/us/census/data/demographic.html

and thus do not claim them to be true and correct. But, have used them as a basis.



Male 138,053,563 49.1
Female 143,368,343 50.9

Under 5 years 19,175,798 6.8
5 to 9 years 20,549,505 7.3
10 to 14 years 20,528,072 7.3
15 to 19 years 20,219,890 7.2
20 to 24 years 18,964,001 6.7
25 to 34 years 39,891,724 14.2
35 to 44 years 45,148,527 16.0
45 to 54 years 37,677,952 13.4
55 to 59 years 13,469,237 4.8
60 to 64 years 10,805,447 3.8
65 to 74 years 18,390,986 6.5
75 to 84 years 12,361,180 4.4
85 years and over 4,239,587 1.5

Median age (years) 35.3 (X)

18 years and over 209,128,094 74.3
Male
100,994,367 35.9
Female
108,133,727 38.4
21 years and over 196,899,193 70.0
62 years and over 41,256,029 14.7
65 years and over 34,991,753 12.4
Male
14,409,625 5.1
Female
20,582,128 7.3

RACE
One race 274,595,678 97.6
White
211,460,626 75.1
Black or African American
34,658,190 12.3
American Indian and Alaska Native
2,475,956 0.9
Asian
10,242,998 3.6
Asian Indian
1,678,765 0.6
Chinese
2,432,585 0.9
Filipino
1,850,314 0.7
Japanese
796,700 0.3
Korean
1,076,872 0.4
Vietnamese
1,122,528 0.4

Other Asian 1
1,285,234 0.5
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander
398,835 0.1
Native Hawaiian
140,652 0.0
Guamanian or Chamorro
58,240 0.0
Samoan
91,029 0.0

Other Pacific Islander 2
108,914 0.0
Some other race
15,359,073 5.5
Two or more races 6,826,228 2.4

What i found interesting is that Hilary Clintons main focus of her whole campaign rested on calling Donald Trump out on his shortcomings....which we all know are many. Thus playing on the sensitivities of Females, Gay community, the Hispanic and African American and other Minorities. Somewhere along the line she forgot what she was campaigning about and key issues which Clinton's regime followed by the passing of the baton to Obamas tenure, making America into a Country divided, as is very obvious presently, she did not address. There was no alleviation plans spoken of or recognition of the people of America's concerns for survival.

Do not blame the free and democratic election of Trump as the main cause for what is being seen in America at present.

Rather blame those that have been in power to date and their failure to meet the needs of their people.

As to Hilary's popularity vote bare minimal and not even worthy of mention......considering the population ratio as of the table above.
What happened to the level headed woman and other minorites....why did they not stand together, and if they abstained from voting...i think speak volumes for who Hilary is and what she stands for.
It is surprising to hear and an eye opener , when voters were asked about their votes....many answered that they lied who they would vote for, because should they have disclosed their favour of Trump, they expected a backlash.
Says much about the popularity vote then...doesnt it.....intimidating into lying.....a free will and free world?

This modern America is not the America the world may know....and as with Putin and the rise of Mother Russia ...i have a feeling....America will rise too.

The effect on the World....well we have always been at the mercy of the Super Powers ...and thus no different today.

To get into a panic....what for?

What will be will be....we like it or not....and sometimes how conveniently we play into the hands of those that know to rule by fear and divide.

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Posted: 2016-11-13 20:22:44

@deamonza, my limited knowledge of world conflict regarding military expenditure and the American involvement in the middle east and by maintaining their presence in just about every region the world, has a limited impact on their defence expenditure from military capacity point of view. America's dominace in military technology has been on the wane ever since the Obama adimistration decided to reduce expediture on re-equipping all arms of American defence. With the recent show of force from China, North Korea and Russia, America has been found to wanting in number of key areas on the battle field, more specifically in the advancement of technology in strike and counter insurgent strategies. Many brains in the business have have spotted this weakness and called (since a few years ago) for significant increases in the American defence budgets to ensure that their renewal programs are realised soon to beef up and maintanin their world dominance. One only has to look at the absolute disaster the Obama administartion created by spending hundreds of billions on overuns on the yet to be proven F35 stealth fighter program, which could have been averted or minimized had the deal been managed more from a bussiness perspective (ala up Trumps ally). Without going into more detail, Trump's policy on America's increased military expediture is justifiable from many perspectives other than just the war on terror, and his support base have bought into his ideas and old school ways of dealing with current issues.
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Posted: 2016-11-14 06:56:25

More than half of US senators and congressmen are in the pay of Rothschild bankers via powerful lobby groups.

They are traitors to America.




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Posted: 2016-11-14 07:41:33

On 2016-11-14 06:56:25 Ben Layden said:
More than half of US senators and congressmen are in the pay of Rothschild bankers via powerful lobby groups.

They are traitors to America.


Oh my gosh what utter claptrap. Do the big banks and big corporates throw a lot of money around? Absolutely. Does that makes them traitors? Absolutely NOT. A traitor is someone who betrays a cause or principle usually with the purpose of seeing its demise. The big banks don't want America to fail.
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Posted: 2016-11-14 07:55:06

A worthy Blog to follow forwarded to me by a gentleman visitor close:

Dr Adize's insights on Policy issues
Post election pondering featured on
Medium.com on 11 November 2016

Donald Trump, the vulgar bully and questionably successful real estate developer, got elected to the most prestigious and powerful position in the world: President of the United States of America.

I was not surprised.

Now there are demonstrations across the country: People are screaming at the top of their lungs, "Trump is not our president," and there is a burgeoning movement, Calexit, to separate California from the United States.

I'm not surprised about that either.

If Hillary Clinton had been elected, I believe we would have seen the same phenomenon of street marches against her; this time those who favored Trump would be marching. And if Bernie Sanders had been the Democratic nominee and had won against Trump, we would have marches against him too.

It has nothing to do with Trump or Clinton. Or Sanders or Joe Schmo or whoever was elected. It is all due to where America is in the lifecycle.

When a system ages it starts to disintegrate. In our physical life, the heart might stop collaborating with the rest of the body, or a kidney fails. Notice how older people are not as social as younger people either. An old car also falls apart, as does old furniture.




America is falling apart. It did not start with Clinton vs. Trump. The disintegration is now in full swing, but it started a long time ago. I suggest it started with Richard Nixon.
America as a system is aging. Notice that the leading entrepreneurs of this country are primarily foreign born, or second-generation immigrants.

We are importing entrepreneurship. Look at who attends schools of engineering, science, and math. (What are the American kids studying? Global studies, women's studies, music, and art.) Examine R&D investments and startup company statistics. Entrepreneurship is going down while government machinery is mushrooming. These are all signs of an aging system.

After Aristocracy comes the stage of Recrimination. Major disintegration. That is when companies fall apart. That is the stage when leaders are rejected. The whole body turns against itself and against those who try to make constructive change. In a previous blog, Quo Vadis, President Obama? I said that if you are surprised by Barack Obama's low popularity, wait and see what will happen to his successor; who ever that may be.

The system wants to change all right. It will attract leaders who promise change but, as they do, the system rejects them. That is what is happening here, whether that leader is Trump or Clinton or Joe Schmo.
When aging starts it proceeds quickly to the demise of the system. We grow fast; we also age fast.

America's disintegration will accelerate. The country's leader, whoever it is, will try to control that disintegration with a heavy hand. Notice that throughout history, dictators have emerged when there has been a major crisis.
A heavy hand does not stop the disintegration; in some cases, it can even accelerate the disintegration. When that happens, companies go bankrupt. Countries do not go bankrupt; they just disintegrate. Calexit may be the first rain announcing the arrival of winter.

Is there a way back? Can a system be rejuvenated?

Yes, it can. The theory has been documented(1) and tested successfully with corporations.(2)

Not with countries, though.

I am watching and biting my nails. I know why it is happening, I know what needs to be done, and, as it is, I cannot do anything.
Just pondering,
Ichak Kalderon Adizes

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Posted: 2016-11-14 09:14:36
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My personal opinion:

Hilary Clinton is a warmonger - military conflict with Russia and her allies, possibly nuclear war, was pretty much guaranteed, should she have won the election; Under her administration, military spending would've been used to the detriment of the world;

Trump is more interested in local security and growing the economy, plus he likes Putin - military conflict with Russian and her allies, is less likely with him as president; Under his administration, I think military spending will be used more to increase domestic security, as a preventative measure;

Soros has a heavy hand in the current protests and mass hysteria in US, because he funded Clinton and needed that warmonger in office, to increase his international control and wealth.
Apart from Soros, there are many other big players, who stand to loose a lot once Trump moves into the white house. Therefore, Michelle's sentiment (on the other thread) that Trump may be assassinated before he is inaugurated, is not far fetched at all as his proposed policies is effectively going to neuter those who have been playing God, the world over...he is in a very dangerous position at the moment.

Should Trump survive the next few months and indeed gets to sit in the White House, he will be under a lot of pressure to reform his proposed policies. Should he not review/reform his proposed policies, he will imo remain a big target for the duration of his presidency.

If he manages to survive and stick to his guns wrt to policies, I do think that he will make a good president in terms of economic growth and he will not instigate war in other countries. However, worldwide conflict is also dependent on who replaces Putin in the near future and if there is a change in Trump's somewhat unfavorable current view of China wrt to economics and trade. Putin is a brilliant leader and I seriously doubt that the person who replaces him, will be of the same caliber & Xi Jinping is a straight shooter - should Trump in the future, not get along with the next Russian president and should he fail to reach an amicable compromise with Xi Jinping, his peaceful intentions may become unattainable....
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Posted: 2016-11-14 10:49:52
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I agree with most of your sentiments, Sybil, especially on that warmongering Hillary Clinton. And just like in South Africa, distrust of her and a lower voter turnout (55%) led to her demise.
And although Trump is not the most savoury character (which "politicians" are?), he might prevent a Cold War (and a very Hot War). As for the banks, so-called Federal Reserve (Kennedy assassination), that capture took place long before the Guptas.
Let's see what hit, "accident" or "suicide" attempt awaits Herr Trumpff !
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Posted: 2016-11-14 12:15:58

You have to take the Clinton election into context though... Since it was a straight up prediction she was going to run this year what have the republicans being doing ?
They embroiled her in massive congressional hearing that amounted to nothing, yet repeated them over and over and again in order to force the impression she was inept.
Same with the e-mail scandal, you will note that throughout the whole election cycle not a single republican has mentioned Bush's emails that were deleted.

Was she the best the democrats could do, absolutely not... they didn't even try, and thats on them. Bernie Sanders was never going to be elected, and if he was it would have been years of massive obstructionism. Clinton can work, and has worked across the aisle.

There were failures from Clinton, the DNC and the voters themselves with her election. This is fact.
But another fact remains, voters have decided to accept racism, intolerance, sexism as acceptable as long as a Hillary Clinton does not get elected.
Another fact is that is the Electoral College system that was supposed to be in place to protect against this kind of populist voting is completely broken and does not actually reflect the will of the people. The populist vote went to Clinton, it really should be that simple, they are still counting but she is 1.8 million ahead in the popular count so far.

As an aside, if you are still following what is happening in the Election... it seems Trump is already breaking all his promises.
Repealing Obamacare, maybe now he will amend it.
Build a wall... well, it'll be more of a fence actually.
Break up all the trade agreements... already there is a fight with the republican party about this.
Take the big money out of politics... take a look at who is going with him into the white house, all his friends, people like Reince Priebus and Steve Bannon, blatant racists and anti-semites. His kids, are part of the transition teams. He is reported to be asking a wall street buddy who made hundreds of millions during the elections to be on the team.
So much for draining the swamp.
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Posted: 2016-11-14 13:32:07

We all know that polticians make untold "promises" before election, not many carry them out once elected. Besides, as a President-elect, Trump has no official role in government, so only after he takes office on 20 January, will we see if he has "officialy" broken any of his promises.
You must know how disliked and distrusted you are when, having that volume of media behind you, backed by celebrities and high-profile persons, and with 30 years of experience and 'service", you get beat by a person with no military or political experience and who has offended and insulted women, African-americans, muslims, the disabled, latinos, and more.

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