Don't think it's fair on anyone who supported either party not to know the eventual outcome as it just leaves a bad taste in everyone's mouth.

JP came here looking to garner public support and pressurise Kate to do the right thing .

We need to know has the money been paid back - or how has this been resolved.

Not right just to leave it hanging in the air and pretend it didn't happen as Kates reputation has been damaged the way things stand .

If she's indeed reimbursed JP them we should know so as to clear the stain on her name.

To those who are still interested - apologies for the delay I have had some minor crises at work that required my immediate attention.

On this matter: On Wednesday Kate Pm'd me to tell me that she was working all day on Thursday, but that she would make the payment on Friday by lunchtime (Fair enough, bearing in mind that this is still mostly a cash industry, so payment would likely mean a trip to the bank/atm)

That has not happened. I don't know why. I don't know if something happened etc.

So same question again but has the refund come through by now?

On 2022-11-26 08:49:07 Johnny English said:
Before you go, Airjon, can you perhaps tell us when is the baby due ?

Lol

On 2022-11-22 13:13:01 JP82 said:
I really didn't want to write this, but I've tried everything I can, over several months, to resolve the issue and haven't been successful so I guess it's time to accept that it just is what it is.

I am also posting this on her profile.

I didn't want to write it, because the guilty party is one of my all-time favourites and I have really enjoyed getting to know her and spending time with her, and I have been seeing her for several years now. (Active ad: www.esa.co.za/escorts/viewEscort.php )

But the truth of the matter is that she has now robbed me.
So a while ago I was visiting this lady fairly frequently -- probably 4 or 5 times over two or three weeks (including a few times where I drove from Joburg through to PTA only to be stood up, which is not entirely unusual for her). At the time I was dealing with some issues (both health and other) and a lot of the bookings were just going for a drink or having a chat (i.e. nothing physical). For these bookings Kate frequently gave a discount in terms of which I just had to cover the cost of the room. I protested this (because if she wasn't seeing me she would be able to see another client and I didn't want her losing out on my account) but she insisted.

So anyway, as with many I found that an hour with her was just not enough, so arranged for an all-nighter. She quoted me a price and requested a R3000 upfront payment and she would book a guest house. I sent the R3000 by e-wallet.

I know what you are all going to say about upfront payments but I had no second thoughts about doing so -- I have known her for years and have even lent her money in the past when her wallet/cards where stolen and she needed cash and she paid me back literally within days. I really did trust her.

On the day that the all-nighter was supposed to take place she sent me a message/ voice note saying that she had just got out of a booking and would be looking for a guest house now and would send me the details. That was the last I heard from her. I happily headed through to Pretoria and went to a coffee shop to wait for the details. And boy did I wait. And wait. And wait. No response to messages. No answer to calls etc. Eventually I accepted what had just happened and headed home.

I have tried to get hold of her frequently since then, mostly unsuccessfully. On one occasion she answered, and we had a bit of a tense chat. I asked her what happened. Her first response was "I don't know" which is not ideal. Then she said that the R3000 wasn't for the all nighter but was because of the discounts she had given me. Which would be odd because that's not AT ALL what she said when she asked for the R3000 -- it was definitely an "upfront payment" (her words) for the overnighter, ( I still have the messages if people want to see the receipts) so if she was recouping the discounts it was done under false pretenses and besides how do you give a discount and then unilaterally revoke it?

Incidentally if she had messaged me and said "I actually can't afford to give you those discounts", I would have paid in the difference -- like I said I didn't actually want them in the first place. And actually I've told her that I'd be happy to let her keep it if she'll see me again.
But here we are -- She is still not responding to messages or answering any further calls and I'm out R3000.

So u 82 and you playing with fire? Are you falling for her GrandPa?

JP write the money off.

I was actually thinking about punting again... this thread just reminded me of how complicated and messy even punting can become, and of some of my hard learned punting lessons.

The best thing to do is likely not to have a regular WG, but on the other hand there's plenty of duds out there and it can be tempting once you've found someone you like to stick with what works...

But anyway this thread has made me think that just perhaps I can go without punting for a while longer (also only a couple of girls that caught my attention and which won't break my bank account so close to Christmas. So that helps as well).

Hi everyone

So this matter has been resolved -- and surprisingly amicably.
First off -- the money has been refunded (After actually communicating I told her to keep it, but she insisted)

Second, the delay in the refund from last week was my fault. I requested that she hold off payment until I could clear something up, which brings me to:

So Kate's initial reaction to my post was pretty angry, and in her initial anger she said something to me that caught me completely off-guard (which I've mentioned before) and that's a suggestion that I am or was smoking meth. It took me completely by surprise because it is not even close to being true. Its also a very odd thing to throw out just randomly without any basis even if you are angry, so I've been playing Sherlock Holmes these last few days and trying to figure out what the hell.

Turns out that around the time that this all went down this particular rumour had circulated about me. Some time before this I had been friends (by association) with someone who was a user but I never used myself (besides the fact that I don't want to, it would be particularly life threatening given my health concerns, and anyway I undergo random but frequent drug tests at work because we often consult for clients with extremely sensitive information). But somewhere along the line that transmogrified into a rumour that I was using with her. I have no idea why, but I do have a pretty good idea of who started it (it wasn't Kate).

Which brings me back to this thread: Kate's standing me up. The sudden 180 from getting on well to "I don't feel comfortable seeing you" finally makes sense. Despite the conclusions that some have joyously leapt to, I am not a creeper/stalker. I have not mistaken a transactional arrangement for love. I know exactly what this is, and I respect the boundary which is partly why I found the whole situation so bizarre and wanted an explanation. She probably should have called/messaged me that day (and she has apologised for that) but given that she may well have been not just uncomfortable but actually afraid maybe that is also understandable.

As far as the deposit is concerned: I have been absolutely convinced that there is no doubt from the whatsapp conversations that it was clear that it was a deposit for the overnighter. Only one person took me up on my offer to share the whatsapps and that person has pointed out to me that there is enough ambiguity in at least one of the threads for somebody to mis-interpret it, especially when you remember that Kate's first language is not English. So on that point, it looks like it could really be just a miscommunication.

What a fucking drama

36 pages ... holy shit balls ... was the forum debating something serious ... :)