On 2022-11-01 10:45:37 Arhwen said:


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I have learnt expection can sometimes create disappointment...

Well, it stands to reason that if a person pays more for any service or product, they can expect a higher level of service and quality. Not so? Why else would someone pay more for something that can be gotten cheaper elsewhere.

So I think it's entirely fair for someone to have high expectations based on what they're paying. Only a fool would pay premium and say "I hope it's as good or better than the cheaper products but I have no expectations of it being any better".

JP69

The Expectation Trap:

If the outcome is worse than expected, we experience disappointment and stop, but if the outcome exceeds our expectation, we feel happy and continue.

Are punter's expectations too high because of their previous experience (getting more than they expected) or is it that ladies aren't performing as well as before (giving less service/value than before)?

My experience:
Ladies are providing less service than previously at a higher cost.
Rather than building a business with loyal clients, they prefer cash in hand.

Last week I booked a lady (previous ESA top 10) for 2 hours at a premium rate for a sensual massage, slow easy going session and GFE . I didn't negotiate or ask for a discount or anything. In fact, I put a 10% tip into the envelope and brought flowers, some breakfast and coffee.

I get to her place (A hotel), she's not ready and proceeds to tell me she was not expecting me, and blames me for changing the time. (I messaged her to say I would be about 5 minutes late because of loadsheading and traffic getting to her at 09:00).

I get to her room, there with the help of the hotel's receptionist (as instructed by her). She's not dress, no make-up, hair is wet and she looks like she's had a rough night. I think it's fine at least she's clean, fresh and energized.

After my shower and bit of a chat and coffee, she tells me she's horny and needs to suck on my cock, a few minutes of that and then tells me she needs to ride me. I ask to go down on her first, she agrees, but that was a bad idea, she was not fresh at all. I few seconds of this and I suggest that she can ride me.

After the deed, we chat, I have a smoke (standings next to a window - she has confirmed via text, that I could smoke in the room). Anyways, she goes for a shower. She gets back and offers me the shower. I ask what about the next hour. She says, she has a cum once policy.... (this was news to me). Not wanting the cause a scene, I shower and leave.

So 45 minutes later I'm in my car, still hard, heading back to the office.

Moral of the story:
- Ladies can't be trusted - new rules appear out of thin air
- Stick with the ladies that provide excellent service
- New, Young, slim and Hot ladies will be a disappointment
- Pay for the basics (30 mins) and extend if it feels right
- Tips only if lady has made me feel good about the appointment
- DON"T GIVE THE LADY THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT! (I hate that I have been made to feel like this - But this was not the first time or the second or the third)

This is why I only visit ladies who have and continue to provide a great service to me.

On 2022-11-01 12:05:29 JackParrow69 said:
On 2022-11-01 10:45:37 Arhwen said:

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I have learnt expection can sometimes create disappointment...

Well, it stands to reason that if a person pays more for any service or product, they can expect a higher level of service and quality. Not so? Why else would someone pay more for something that can be gotten cheaper elsewhere.

So I think it's entirely fair for someone to have high expectations based on what they're paying. Only a fool would pay premium and say "I hope it's as good or better than the cheaper products but I have no expectations of it being any better".

JP69

The things is you can by the same vehicle from 2 different dealerships at different prices does it mean the car changes its performance on how much the client has paid I think not.

Besides you are missing the point there are ladies for every punting budget why spend money you don't have on a punt when there are more affordable ones?

Like wise why try to haggle our fees because x y and z charges those fees if you know x y and z charge those fees go see them don't haggle my fees.

If a punter says to me that he can't afford my fees I appreciate his honesty he will move on and find someone who better suits his budget but if a punter decides to haggle my fees I'll use yesterdays example

I want to fuck you but I want a discount firstly this man has never seen me before but he wants a discount that's rather disrespectful you don't tell your doctor or lawyer you need their services but they must give you a discount. Punting is a hobby not a must if people are going to complain about the fees either find someone who you can afford or don't punt because you don't have the budget to punt.

Next part of the conversation would you like it if I give you a discount but say you can't enter me touch me and I don't suck for a discounted rate. Then suddenly he could now afford my fees I must not remove any of my services.

By this time I had already lost interest in seeing the said punter but he still forces the issue for me to see him after I told him that he is better off finding another lady.

I'm other words he could initially afford my fee but tried to knock my rate anyway. Sorry your money buys an amazing session nothing more and nothing less.

Also remember I speak for myself. As we are not all the same.

There's a few reasons for me stopping:
Financial - covid, economy, poor increases and more expenses (started private schooling) being a big one.

I work from home and there is very little that I travel now. Which makes bookings difficult.

I have OCD and sometimes anxiety which doesn't help before, during or after a punt.
With all these scams, threats etc it's so sketchy and nerve-wrecking

Wife and my sex life has been on an upward trajectory and is really awesome right now so I'm almost always satisfied (are we really ever though).

I've had some incredible punts, met amazing women of all races, shapes and sizes and ages and not forgetting the glorious shemales, had fun and enjoyed quite a bit.

Why am I here? Tbh I love perving at our beautiful home grown ladies, I try look for the odd gem here and there to try get back on that horse now and then.

On 2022-11-01 12:12:15 nsasexguy said:
The Expectation Trap:

If the outcome is worse than expected, we experience disappointment and stop, but if the outcome exceeds our expectation, we feel happy and continue.

Are punter's expectations too high because of their previous experience (getting more than they expected) or is it that ladies aren't performing as well as before (giving less service/value than before)?

My experience:
Ladies are providing less service than previously at a higher cost.
Rather than building a business with loyal clients, they prefer cash in hand.

Last week I booked a lady (previous ESA top 10) for 2 hours at a premium rate for a sensual massage, slow easy going session and GFE . I didn't negotiate or ask for a discount or anything. In fact, I put a 10% tip into the envelope and brought flowers, some breakfast and coffee.

I get to her place (A hotel), she's not ready and proceeds to tell me she was not expecting me, and blames me for changing the time. (I messaged her to say I would be about 5 minutes late because of loadsheading and traffic getting to her at 09:00).

I get to her room, there with the help of the hotel's receptionist (as instructed by her). She's not dress, no make-up, hair is wet and she looks like she's had a rough night. I think it's fine at least she's clean, fresh and energized.

After my shower and bit of a chat and coffee, she tells me she's horny and needs to suck on my cock, a few minutes of that and then tells me she needs to ride me. I ask to go down on her first, she agrees, but that was a bad idea, she was not fresh at all. I few seconds of this and I suggest that she can ride me.

After the deed, we chat, I have a smoke (standings next to a window - she has confirmed via text, that I could smoke in the room). Anyways, she goes for a shower. She gets back and offers me the shower. I ask what about the next hour. She says, she has a cum once policy.... (this was news to me). Not wanting the cause a scene, I shower and leave.

So 45 minutes later I'm in my car, still hard, heading back to the office.

Moral of the story:
- Ladies can't be trusted - new rules appear out of thin air
- Stick with the ladies that provide excellent service
- New, Young, slim and Hot ladies will be a disappointment
- Pay for the basics (30 mins) and extend if it feels right
- Tips only if lady has made me feel good about the appointment
- DON"T GIVE THE LADY THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT! (I hate that I have been made to feel like this - But this was not the first time or the second or the third)

This is why I only visit ladies who have and continue to provide a great service to me.

This industry does open our eyes to all the BS out there from punters and girls believe me have experienced it from both.

Only we can take precautions and set measures in place that protect us from being scammed, robbed etc...

Well done to you for implementing something that works for.

I encourage both punters and working girls to establish boundaries and rules which work for them.

I didn't get a chance to take my time to read all your comments, I just speed read.

Right now there are still WG's charging R500 an hour providing the elite escort experience.

There are also WG's in the Caucasian category still charging below R1000 an hour.

My experience dictates I visit the less expensive WG's for they are indeed the best service providers.

Fuck all of you...lol.

Oh yes and I do also feel like quitting because there are still many booby traps here but I just remember the good times and its just too good AND true.




Fuck you too..lol.

Ahhhh FUCK!!!






It's a love/hate situation, its sad and unfortunate.

Fuck me...lol.

On 2022-11-01 13:38:47 SuperFuck said:


Ahhhh FUCK!!!

Fuck me...lol.

Did you cum so quickly?

Ready for round 2?

Let me help you control yourself this time around ;)

On 2022-11-01 12:05:29 JackParrow69 said:
On 2022-11-01 10:45:37 Arhwen said:

...
I have learnt expection can sometimes create disappointment...

Well, it stands to reason that if a person pays more for any service or product, they can expect a higher level of service and quality. Not so? Why else would someone pay more for something that can be gotten cheaper elsewhere.

So I think it's entirely fair for someone to have high expectations based on what they're paying. Only a fool would pay premium and say "I hope it's as good or better than the cheaper products but I have no expectations of it being any better".

JP69

If I'm going to pay a significantly high fee I expect the full package-she needs to be a stunner of note, not someone that I'll easily or even be able to pick up in my personal life, sliding into her should feel like a privilege, so looks are non-negotiable. On top of that service should be top notch. Nothing mechanical, treating me like a VVIP. That's what I want and expect when paying an ultra premium rate. You can't pay ultra premium for looks without service or vice versa.

Im a nutshell she needs to look like she just walked off the runway at a Victoria Secret show and fuck me like I'm Brad Pitt and we're on my private jet.