On 2022-04-10 12:59:51 shyshy said:
This is not shocking. Been offered many times and at extra cost, sometimes WG slides it in and pretend that it's a mistake then says if you pay more you can have it since you also feeling how warm it is.
There's rub rub, those that know they will understand. So many WGs and Punters do rub rub and don't see anything wrong with it but see penetrating raw as wrong. Some give it in the ass raw but not in the pussy and you wonder why because risk is the same.

The truth is that it's happening more than WGs would admit even with very popular ones and those that are the most vocal in the forums, if there were no repercussions punters would name them (destroying WGs name, reputation and business, risking the punters real identity being exposed and blah blah, so many risks to coming out with info, it is also said that some WGs work for the intelligence or supplier them with info about punters).

Prep exist and also post exposure, many WGs are taking ARVs either to protect themselves or because they are infected, you will never know because they will not consume them in front of punters. Punters must just do the same. ARVs make people gain wait (just saying and don't judge people because of this comment). Now there even a vaginal ring that has passed in SA for women and when it start being available, there'll be much more bare back than ever before, just get on with the times and adjust. I'm Sh*T scared tbh but that's reality and everyone knows that it's nicer and will not stop now.

If a punter who does this weekly, monthly and yearly can have a condom burst and sometimes only discover too late, what about WGs who do this for a living, take an average of 5-7 a day or minimum of 3 punters a day? There days when there 0 and there's days when that number changes.

Last thing, there's no truth in this industry, Rather take the word of someone that offers you upfront than those that pretend it doesn't happen when they are doing it daily.

@Shyshy , you speak the truth this is exactly what happens in this industry, all of the above

On 2022-04-10 12:59:51 shyshy said:
This is not shocking. Been offered many times and at extra cost, sometimes WG slides it in and pretend that it's a mistake then says if you pay more you can have it since you also feeling how warm it is.
There's rub rub, those that know they will understand. So many WGs and Punters do rub rub and don't see anything wrong with it but see penetrating raw as wrong. Some give it in the ass raw but not in the pussy and you wonder why because risk is the same.

The truth is that it's happening more than WGs would admit even with very popular ones and those that are the most vocal in the forums, if there were no repercussions punters would name them (destroying WGs name, reputation and business, risking the punters real identity being exposed and blah blah, so many risks to coming out with info, it is also said that some WGs work for the intelligence or supplier them with info about punters).

Prep exist and also post exposure, many WGs are taking ARVs either to protect themselves or because they are infected, you will never know because they will not consume them in front of punters. Punters must just do the same. ARVs make people gain wait (just saying and don't judge people because of this comment). Now there even a vaginal ring that has passed in SA for women and when it start being available, there'll be much more bare back than ever before, just get on with the times and adjust. I'm Sh*T scared tbh but that's reality and everyone knows that it's nicer and will not stop now.

If a punter who does this weekly, monthly and yearly can have a condom burst and sometimes only discover too late, what about WGs who do this for a living, take an average of 5-7 a day or minimum of 3 punters a day? There days when there 0 and there's days when that number changes.

Last thing, there's no truth in this industry, Rather take the word of someone that offers you upfront than those that pretend it doesn't happen when they are doing it daily.

Shyshy, so many truths in what you say, and because of bareback with n new girlfriend I have, and not pulling out in time, and she sort off blocked me from pulling out, I am now in trouble, and think it is about another 5 or so Months before the little one is born. So yah

Vouch - this happen to just the other week... opted for a massage and a blow and she was grinding me all over and it was getting a lil too close for my liking. She said the condoms were in the cupboard somewhere and her words, its ok to go further. That was it for me, mood killed and the session was over for me. So yes it happens also with the high end top rated ladies here too

This is all smoke and mirrors. Punters think they are special because they think the girl they are barebacking only does it with them. But in actual fact a lot of these ladies don't really care that much. They will fuck you bare and then see another guy and do them the same way on the same day. There are too many women that Ive seen that just say

"Im clean"

"I can see your clean."

"That cock looks good I wish I could slip it in me raw"

" I don't usually do this but I really want you to feel how wet I am"

So many ladies are just human. So of course if they like the dick they going to try bareback it. And common sense flies out the window. But honestly as a person who is consistently just shit scared of "risking it" I just refuse. I cannot put myself through that. I have a family. I cannot risk that for few moments of pleasure.

I will never condemn one for doing bareback. But I will also not ignore the risk and impact it may have to the punter or even the WG and the clients she does see. You dont want to risk bareback. You need a strong will to say no and walk a way. Especially if the WG is a hot as shit.

WGs will never admit to it. They will tell you they want to fuck you bare in private and blatantly say that they would never do that on this forum and say people that do it are degenerate and disgraceful.

Meanwhile they fucking their regulars and letting them creampie them before seeing the next first time client an hour later.

I don't care if you do bareback. I dont care who you fuck. I dont care how you fuck. I just care about myself and my own health. We are all adults. You want to be unsafe its your life.

Its funny how some punters seem to forget that these ladies are fucking 3-7 guys a day. You think she's going to tell you she's had a condom break twice this week? Or that she had a first time punter have a condom slip off? Why do you expect honesty?

Its her job to get you to pay her and make you want to pay her again. People on these threads need to stop thinking that anyone cares about their health or that they would never be given an sti knowingly. Grow up and smell the roses.

Just joined and came across this post...does this even happen. my balls been shrunk all day. shit scared

On 2022-04-10 06:50:49 hbviper said:
On 2022-04-10 02:13:04
and @Sabrina, nothing wrong with your boobs, it is perfect

I was thinking the exact same thing

On 2022-04-09 21:22:50 Kommerq said:
On 2022-04-09 10:17:17 Angie said: On 2022-04-08 15:55:58 MarkRain said: When times are tough and the right amount offered, some ladies may consider it !

I respectfully disagree

Then young lady you live in a fantasy world, how long have you been in this industry for and how many ladies have you booked ?

If you say something is not true 3 times in a row, doesn't actually make it not true, simply means ypu live in a little village called De Nial

Well my dear @kommerq... I'd rather live next to denial and float around in my little fantasy world .. Atleast we do things right this side ;)

Kisses
Angie

I personally think punters are naive if they think there is no bare back.

It is a lot more common than people care to admit, and there are very few if any SP that can in all honesty say she are not doing bare back at all, thats including her personal life.

This is 100% facts. You cant rely on what anyone on this forum says. At the end of the day the WG doesn't care about you. And you are just another john.

If you not going to look after yourself no one else will. Im not saying every WG is a heartless money grabber. We are all human. You cannot expect honesty and truth from people who are not in an honest industry. There's a lot that happens in the background that you just will never see. You'd be shocked.

Just be wise and condomise. Don't believe everything someone says. Treat everyone with respect. Just assume everyone is doing bareback already. Protect yourself in the best way you can.

To the person who opened this thread thank you for being a moron... Who cares that you were finially offered this since you joined Esa in 2014.

Hope Esa gives you a medal finally. May the girl felt sorry for you like a mercy fcuk.

Any person punting knows the risks associated with this pastime.

To the people saying WG only care about themselves wake up they running a business.

If you get any offer you not comfortable please be a adult decline and keep your gob shut.. I of us don't care.

Please have a good day further @all