Massage only, great incentives and maid/reception service. Please whatsapp if you would like to come for an interview.
I work the Saturday shift and I have been reading your post with interest,
Now I am confused, you ride us post after post about how wrong the figures are that was given by. Eddie and here you are saying that the advertisers should come work with you because you offer "very high earning potential", You stated in one of the previous posts that there were 2 ladies who advertised on this site and they did not even earn 10K a month, you speak of individuals who nobody knows as they do not work off this site anymore so you yourself cannot back up that statement as you are speaking for other individuals making your statement anecdotal.
It surprises me that you do not speak for yourself but rather for others and my guess is because you possibly fall in the category of the 200k mark.
You have continuously stated how Eddie's figures are wrong and advertisers to not earn that (or at least not anymore) yet in your second last post you stated and I quote "Our ladies earn very well Thankyou" contradicting yourself.
Further, you mention what he pays his photographers in relation to your business which has nothing to do with each other because the debate was about what WG/MG earn not what you and Eddie pay your staff. In his case, they are his staff members (the photographers) and they are not in the industry they are photographers. in your case the ladies who work from your premises are your clients as they pay for a service that being making your venue available and the added bonuses with it. You speaking of paying for their adverts as if you are taking the money from your own pocket paying it when they are indirectly paying it themselves.
I know people who work at the spur that earn more than 10k just on tips a month so it could be possible that they who earn less than 10k a month should not be in the industry.
I am just a lowly administer here but my personal opinion is that no one can correctly analyze what the ladies factually earn and my guess is that the ladies will not be forthcoming of their actual earnings here (which I can understand as its no one's business but theirs).
I have come to the conclusion that you have replied to these posts that actually had nothing to do with you personally as you do not earn under 20k a month for attention which I am sure you have gotten.
Our platform allows for you to do so and it's a very good strategy often used here, I must applaud you for that, but, maybe in the future when a debate does not concern you, you should try to stay out of it as no one appointed you the speaker of all the 1500 advertisers we have here on this site.
My reason for saying that you have nothing to do with this debate is as follows and I stand corrected
1. If every lady in your house takes home at a minimum 1k a day that in itself is 20k a month for working 5 days a week. Why you are saying that the ladies do not earn even that is beyond me.
2. If 3 of your ladies give you a minimum of 3k a day between the 3 of them then you make 60k a month which still does not warrant your statements as you are not the one not earning less than 20k a month.
Keep in mind that their earnings are the full R800 not the R400 that they have after you have taken your 50%. They worked for the R800 then they pay towards their expenses from that.
There was not a single advertiser that said she earns less than 20k a month just like you they said they know of other people who do.
Neither you or the ladies in your house earn less than 20k a month and thus your involvement in this matter is moot.
This is not me debating with you this is me telling you how it is.
Antionette
Escort South Africa
On 2019-07-27 18:11:07 ESA Forum Admin said:
@Le Belle
I work the Saturday shift and I have been reading your post with interest,
Now I am confused, you ride us post after post about how wrong the figures are that was given by. Eddie and here you are saying that the advertisers should come work with you because you offer "very high earning potential", You stated in one of the previous posts that there were 2 ladies who advertised on this site and they did not even earn 10K a month, you speak of individuals who nobody knows as they do not work off this site anymore so you yourself cannot back up that statement as you are speaking for other individuals making your statement anecdotal.
It surprises me that you do not speak for yourself but rather for others and my guess is because you possibly fall in the category of the 200k mark.
You have continuously stated how Eddie's figures are wrong and advertisers to not earn that (or at least not anymore) yet in your second last post you stated and I quote "Our ladies earn very well Thankyou" contradicting yourself.
Further, you mention what he pays his photographers in relation to your business which has nothing to do with each other because the debate was about what WG/MG earn not what you and Eddie pay your staff. In his case, they are his staff members (the photographers) and they are not in the industry they are photographers. in your case the ladies who work from your premises are your clients as they pay for a service that being making your venue available and the added bonuses with it. You speaking of paying for their adverts as if you are taking the money from your own pocket paying it when they are indirectly paying it themselves.
I know people who work at the spur that earn more than 10k just on tips a month so it could be possible that they who earn less than 10k a month should not be in the industry.
I am just a lowly administer here but my personal opinion is that no one can correctly analyze what the ladies factually earn and my guess is that the ladies will not be forthcoming of their actual earnings here (which I can understand as its no one's business but theirs).
I have come to the conclusion that you have replied to these posts that actually had nothing to do with you personally as you do not earn under 20k a month for attention which I am sure you have gotten.
Our platform allows for you to do so and it's a very good strategy often used here, I must applaud you for that, but, maybe in the future when a debate does not concern you, you should try to stay out of it as no one appointed you the speaker of all the 1500 advertisers we have here on this site.
My reason for saying that you have nothing to do with this debate is as follows and I stand corrected
1. If every lady in your house takes home at a minimum 1k a day that in itself is 20k a month for working 5 days a week. Why you are saying that the ladies do not earn even that is beyond me.
2. If 3 of your ladies give you a minimum of 3k a day between the 3 of them then you make 60k a month which still does not warrant your statements as you are not the one not earning less than 20k a month.
Keep in mind that their earnings are the full R800 not the R400 that they have after you have taken your 50%. They worked for the R800 then they pay towards their expenses from that.
There was not a single advertiser that said she earns less than 20k a month just like you they said they know of other people who do.
Neither you or the ladies in your house earn less than 20k a month and thus your involvement in this matter is moot.
This is not me debating with you this is me telling you how it is.
Antionette
Escort South Africa
As a lowly administration assistant as you have stated, I appreciate you joining the discussion.
Our ladies are very successful because we run a good business. Perhaps if you read my responses more thoroughly you would see I didn't say our ladies don't do well, simply that not every lady makes R20K on this site at stated. Not that we don't. You are basically saying 'there can't be starving children in the world because everyone I've spoken to said that they had breakfast this morning.'
Our ladies do have high earning potential in our venue because we cater to what clients desire and it builds a strong client base. We also go out of our way to help our ladies earn as much as possible.
Since you are commenting on our vacancy post, are you looking to be one of our ladies? You are more than welcome though we do have an interview process as we don't accept just any lady.
If not and you simply wanted to join the discussion not to be left out, why don't you respond on the thread discussing this so the clients can see your contribution to the discussion. However our involment is not moot as I had a frank and clarifying discussion with Eddie privately in a pm. Providing names and figures as well as an opportunity to view our appointment book and Financials.
I simply made a remark on asking what the photographers are paid as a point that telling other businesses what they should pay their staff is moot. This point of view was also discussed with Eddie in a pm.
Clearly Le Belle is doing something correct as three of our ladies were in the top 10. To conclude, one of our staff was a lady who earned under R10k. You may feel that any lady that earns under a certain amount shouldn't be in the industry, if it were so easy why is there such a high unemployment rate and mass emigration to seek other work opportunities?
This is not me debating with you. It's an odd point of view to state that 'since several of you ladies earn over R20K, that means you have no personal knowledge of the other 1500 on this site'.
Rather don't respond as this matter was discusses at length and an agreement to disagree left in place. If you feel so strongly, make a post in the Advertisers Lounge asking if anyone makes under R20K. If you would like to respond and have the last word, by all means please do so. I will respond calmly, objectively and factually.
Le Belle had a wonderful response to the discussion as the gentleman reading enjoyed seeing an intelligent response on the matter.
XoXo
On 2019-07-27 10:23:30 Sylvia said:
how do the ladies then make any money if it is only massage??
It is massage with hand relief or body to body. Many gentleman prefer massage only in the right environment over FH.
XoXo.
On 2019-07-28 21:58:25 Le Belle said:
On 2019-07-27 18:11:07 ESA Forum Admin said: @Le Belle
I work the Saturday shift and I have been reading your post with interest,
Now I am confused, you ride us post after post about how wrong the figures are that was given by. Eddie and here you are saying that the advertisers should come work with you because you offer "very high earning potential", You stated in one of the previous posts that there were 2 ladies who advertised on this site and they did not even earn 10K a month, you speak of individuals who nobody knows as they do not work off this site anymore so you yourself cannot back up that statement as you are speaking for other individuals making your statement anecdotal.
It surprises me that you do not speak for yourself but rather for others and my guess is because you possibly fall in the category of the 200k mark.
You have continuously stated how Eddie's figures are wrong and advertisers to not earn that (or at least not anymore) yet in your second last post you stated and I quote "Our ladies earn very well Thankyou" contradicting yourself.
Further, you mention what he pays his photographers in relation to your business which has nothing to do with each other because the debate was about what WG/MG earn not what you and Eddie pay your staff. In his case, they are his staff members (the photographers) and they are not in the industry they are photographers. in your case the ladies who work from your premises are your clients as they pay for a service that being making your venue available and the added bonuses with it. You speaking of paying for their adverts as if you are taking the money from your own pocket paying it when they are indirectly paying it themselves.
I know people who work at the spur that earn more than 10k just on tips a month so it could be possible that they who earn less than 10k a month should not be in the industry.
I am just a lowly administer here but my personal opinion is that no one can correctly analyze what the ladies factually earn and my guess is that the ladies will not be forthcoming of their actual earnings here (which I can understand as its no one's business but theirs).
I have come to the conclusion that you have replied to these posts that actually had nothing to do with you personally as you do not earn under 20k a month for attention which I am sure you have gotten.
Our platform allows for you to do so and it's a very good strategy often used here, I must applaud you for that, but, maybe in the future when a debate does not concern you, you should try to stay out of it as no one appointed you the speaker of all the 1500 advertisers we have here on this site.
My reason for saying that you have nothing to do with this debate is as follows and I stand corrected
1. If every lady in your house takes home at a minimum 1k a day that in itself is 20k a month for working 5 days a week. Why you are saying that the ladies do not earn even that is beyond me.
2. If 3 of your ladies give you a minimum of 3k a day between the 3 of them then you make 60k a month which still does not warrant your statements as you are not the one not earning less than 20k a month.
Keep in mind that their earnings are the full R800 not the R400 that they have after you have taken your 50%. They worked for the R800 then they pay towards their expenses from that.
There was not a single advertiser that said she earns less than 20k a month just like you they said they know of other people who do.
Neither you or the ladies in your house earn less than 20k a month and thus your involvement in this matter is moot.
This is not me debating with you this is me telling you how it is.
Antionette
Escort South Africa
As a lowly administration assistant as you have stated, I appreciate you joining the discussion.
Our ladies are very successful because we run a good business. Perhaps if you read my responses more thoroughly you would see I didn't say our ladies don't do well, simply that not every lady makes R20K on this site at stated. Not that we don't. You are basically saying 'there can't be starving children in the world because everyone I've spoken to said that they had breakfast this morning.'
Our ladies do have high earning potential in our venue because we cater to what clients desire and it builds a strong client base. We also go out of our way to help our ladies earn as much as possible.
Since you are commenting on our vacancy post, are you looking to be one of our ladies? You are more than welcome though we do have an interview process as we don't accept just any lady.
If not and you simply wanted to join the discussion not to be left out, why don't you respond on the thread discussing this so the clients can see your contribution to the discussion. However our involment is not moot as I had a frank and clarifying discussion with Eddie privately in a pm. Providing names and figures as well as an opportunity to view our appointment book and Financials.
I simply made a remark on asking what the photographers are paid as a point that telling other businesses what they should pay their staff is moot. This point of view was also discussed with Eddie in a pm.
Clearly Le Belle is doing something correct as three of our ladies were in the top 10. To conclude, one of our staff was a lady who earned under R10k. You may feel that any lady that earns under a certain amount shouldn't be in the industry, if it were so easy why is there such a high unemployment rate and mass emigration to seek other work opportunities?
This is not me debating with you. It's an odd point of view to state that 'since several of you ladies earn over R20K, that means you have no personal knowledge of the other 1500 on this site'.
Rather don't respond as this matter was discusses at length and an agreement to disagree left in place. If you feel so strongly, make a post in the Advertisers Lounge asking if anyone makes under R20K. If you would like to respond and have the last word, by all means please do so. I will respond calmly, objectively and factually.
Le Belle had a wonderful response to the discussion as the gentleman reading enjoyed seeing an intelligent response on the matter.
XoXo
Dear La Belle
I do not work for you, you do not tell me not to respond.
I read all your responses thoroughly hence why I say you had no need to get involved in the discussion about ladies earning at your establishment, as I said no one appointed you the spokesperson of the ladies on this site and should I ask on the lady's forum who earns less than 20k a month, it would again not be for you to join in the conversation as you do not fall into the category.
We are very pleased that the ladies are earning well, its what it's all about.
As for me replying to your vacancy post, I can reply to any post, maybe you forget who is moderates this forum. Your sarcastic remark is being very mean spirited, argumentative and condescending, why would I need a job offer from you, oh wait I forget you are doing this for nothing other than attention but don't forget who affords you the privilege of allowing you to be able to stand on your little soapbox and to get the attention you so deeply desire.
Never forget that you need Eddie, if it was not for this forum you would not have been given the time of day.
Regarding the top 10, you should be ashamed of your self trying to take the spotlight from the actual ladies who earned their spot on the top 10 by saying "Clearly Le Belle is doing something correct" when it is the lady doing the work and not the massage bed that you provide or the oil or the towels because all those things can be supplied by anyone the ladies do all the work and you are just handsomely profiting from them. The ladies make La Belle, La Belle doesn't make the ladies.
You also go on to try and justify why you take so much from what the ladies earn and I have to take you to task on this the industry standard is not 50/50 and veteran service providers will attest to that.
Your response was everything but intelligent, intelligence is factual, something you have not provided ones throughout the entire debate but you keep tapping yourself on the back thinking it was.
I have been in this industry for over a decade there is nothing you can tell me that I do not already know.
I know what the girls earn, I know when they don't earn and why that is.
See, you forget a few salient facts about this industry, many ladies do not put in the hours, do not answer their phones, treat the punters poorly, change their names, move around, change their number constantly, do not put any effort into their appearance and some are unfortunately on narcotic and that in itself kills their client base and business.
Some even overstate their worth.
When an advertiser does not earn above the 20K mark then it would be one of the above that's taken place.
You qualified to us in your communication that when you last worked in the industry you barley made 8k a month, maybe this is about you and what you were capable of earning and the fact that you didn't hack it. Now if I was a lady considering employment with you I would have second thoughts about working with someone who was not a success in her own right in this industry
You have been a venue owner since March 2019 and previously by your own admission you were an SP and could barley earn 8k, what do you base your levels of expertise on.
In no way were we inconsistent in our qualification we constantly noted what the ladies earn and throughout stuck to the 20k- 200k figure.
You forget who I am and what I do, I interact with the venues and the ladies on this platform on a daily basis.
Here I am trying to make my point to the so-called intelligent venue owner again, this topic had nothing to do with you to start with, pick your battles wisely.
Regards
Antionette
Escort South Africa
Edited: 2019-07-30 23:38:01
Any ladies interested in working at Le Belle, if R1/2K a day (after our deduction) doesn't sound too bad in a safe, upmarket environment then please contact Le Belle for an interview.
We offer:
All ads paid.
A maid to clean after each session at no extra cost to you.
Own locker.
Security.
Dedicated receptionist and manager.
On your sixth booking per day, you keep all money from that booking. Our ladies regularly make this target.
Only working Monday to Friday.
Massage Only.
An interview is needed before we accept a lady. Reliability, friendliness and a desire to listen and earn money are vital traits at Le Belle.
Your success is our success at Le Belle and we want each lady to do well for herself financially in a dignified and cared for environment.
XoXo
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