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Re: Rate debate... The way forward?
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Posted: 2022-03-04 11:46:35

Well fuel went up, and a day later the guy that delivers my wood sends a message that prices went up R10 per bag unfortunately. Lmao
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Posted: 2022-03-06 01:55:59

[QUOTE;3481268;modnarmodnar] @Gretchen your rates have already increased. I'm not trying to be antagonistic but in January this year you posted that you're charging R900/hr - then last month you started charging R1000/hr. Last year you were charging R800/hr. All I'm getting at is, why the sudden concern when you've previously had no issue? I think you might be (rightly) worried that you're pushing your luck.

That said, let me take this in good faith and try to respond as if you don't know what you're doing: you're probably better off having a trial period with new rates (a full month like March), whilst keeping your rates the same for your regulars.

To clarify why my rates increased R800 to R1000. When I charged R800 I was working from home. When I moved and no longer had that option, I used a guesthouse which charged R100 an hour plus it cost me R50 in petrol there and back. Flying to Capetown, staying in hotels for the first few weeks, cost allot - up to R800 a day, hence me pushing up my rate. Capetown is much more expensive than Pretoria and my rent here is almost double than what it was in Pretoria. Plus my car is still in Pretoria, using taxis are rather costly.
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Posted: 2022-03-06 06:58:44

On 2022-03-03 17:18:40 Mistress Gail said:
Theoretically I looked it from this angle I charge R1000.00 for an hours session. So one of my hour session would be going to my advertising for the month ..

That's one appointment out of all the appointment that I had for the month .

My services and everyone else's service on the site is one of stress relief..
Everything is going up.

Now to hike you fee up is to put yourself out the affordability range for clients that are
seeing you regularly for you're services.


R1000.00 per hour still works for me and my ads then work out to
R7260 on esa for the year and on other sites for the year of R5400.00
Total R12660.00 for advertising for the whole year.

That's my take on it .Each one to their own .

you're businesses you're choice.









Have to agree here Mistress Gail...

Well said...


Cunilinkiss
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Posted: 2022-03-06 10:04:29
Edited: 2022-03-06 10:07:24

Don't tell us. It's not our business but calculate what attracting business is costing you in a year. I'm not talking Esa or your collective advertising spent. I'm saying the combined "incentive" costs as well. Be that a special, a bulk arrangement or an auction without reserve. Add them all up. Calculate that as a % of your income.
That is your marketing budget for the year.

In my days the b2b "guidine" was about 3% if I recall correctly and direct b2c marketing was 10% ish.

That has always varied but even established brands like Coke spend multiple zeros on marketing.
Are you a startup then you may need to consider a higher % marketing expense. Same if you need to grow. If you are consolidating and are established, you could consider short term cut backs.

Anyway, calculate your individual figures and decide on your strategy.
No successful business runs its product prices on gutfeel alone.

Amen. (Sorry if this sounded like a lecture. Intended to help ladies think about their business as a business)
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Posted: 2022-03-06 16:53:28

There will always be price increases in a free market system.
Shops (SPs in this case) will react differently and some SPs will take steps to hold existing customers and even gain new ones while other SPs will simply increase their prices.
On the other side the punters that suffer from the same price increases which may result in them punting less frequent or start focusing on a different price group.
It is therefore up to the SP to decide how to react to such price increases. Punters will react to what SPs choose to do
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Posted: 2022-03-07 11:00:14

My suggestions as a consumer of services:

* try keep your rate unchanged for your basic package. 30/60 FH (or sensual massage - whatever you do)

* upsell experiences - and no I don't mean charge every extra like a menu :-) Along with your standard experience consider something extra. So one lady offers sensual massage and also tantric massage - I assume her sensual is good, but I went for the tantric because the small increase in cost seemed worthwhile. I can't compare - but the tantric was exceptional! Or a fantasy session (only available for longer bookings) outfit/s of choice and role play. Or a girl friend experience / porn star experience with small differences in price and offering and value adds compared to your usual experience.

* upsell time! My favorite upsell is time : offer me 90 minutes instead of 60 at a reasonable additional cost and I am in. If your 60 minute rate is R1000 and your 90 minute rate is R1300, I am going to take 90 if I have the time. Minimal additional costs for you, no time lost between sessions and a good chance I will tip
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Posted: 2022-03-07 11:02:40

However - don't complicate the extras! I don't want to feel like I am looking at a restaurant menu or bill.

Basic 30/60 and value add 60/90 is complicated enough when the small head is doing the thinking
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Posted: 2022-03-07 11:20:32

Lastly - treat repeat business like gold. I don't mind price increases, but make me feel valued. For example - one lady would respond to a booking request by offering her last appointment of the day so we were under no time pressure and she would happily stretch a 60 minute booking to 90 or even 120 (when she had the time, not always) and she would refuse to charge extra. Needless to say I kept going back until she left the industry
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Posted: 2022-04-27 12:24:41

On 2022-03-07 11:20:32 2old2 said:
Lastly - treat repeat business like gold. I don't mind price increases, but make me feel valued.



Hear hear. I had a punt yesterday, where I was quoted a price, and the SP quoted a different price from another site when she got a call during the session. I have come to expect that, and have heard the excuse/reasoning that different sites have different rates.

that said, yesterday was unusual. (i) after confirming half an hour before that i was on the way, and 5 minutes before arriving, I was told there was a double booking, and if i can see her friend (ii) service was super exceptional, despite a number of flags and allowing her to take a couple of calls during the session, I left feeling great.

Onto the rate debate, for the first time I really felt justified to give a tip (maybe also related to the fact that I received unexpected funds and was feeling generous). But still boggles the mind the differences in pricing based on where you get the ad from (have become accustomed to visiting SPs with multiple profiles, offering different rates to what i was offered when they answer phones during the session, so just have to accept it as the norm).
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Posted: 2022-04-27 16:58:58

To quote Gretchen and Saffron Skye two woman that I would love to see price increases are up to you but then something has to give as in your sessions being unrushed to uphold your standard of service. Every year prices of commodities increase whilst people's salaries remain the same so to me it's really on the edge of a double edged sword. If you change your prices to high you are definitely going to lose clients but then you lose by not being able to pay for your needs. I agree with one of the other gents give your price increase a trial period and then way up the pros and cons. In the end you'll need to find common ground to what is best for you and your clientele. In SA at the moment we have to deal with the reality of the petrol having continuously having increased, unemployment being at it's highest that it's ever been and the economy being stagnant and then on top of that living with corruption, nepotism and government official are the only ones that seem to get an increase for doing absolutely nothing. This is my personal opinion and 2c worth of insight.

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