On 2022-11-22 13:13:01 JP82 said:
I really didn't want to write this, but I've tried everything I can, over several months, to resolve the issue and haven't been successful so I guess it's time to accept that it just is what it is.

I am also posting this on her profile.

I didn't want to write it, because the guilty party is one of my all-time favourites and I have really enjoyed getting to know her and spending time with her, and I have been seeing her for several years now. (Active ad: www.esa.co.za/escorts/viewEscort.php )

But the truth of the matter is that she has now robbed me.
So a while ago I was visiting this lady fairly frequently -- probably 4 or 5 times over two or three weeks (including a few times where I drove from Joburg through to PTA only to be stood up, which is not entirely unusual for her). At the time I was dealing with some issues (both health and other) and a lot of the bookings were just going for a drink or having a chat (i.e. nothing physical). For these bookings Kate frequently gave a discount in terms of which I just had to cover the cost of the room. I protested this (because if she wasn't seeing me she would be able to see another client and I didn't want her losing out on my account) but she insisted.

So anyway, as with many I found that an hour with her was just not enough, so arranged for an all-nighter. She quoted me a price and requested a R3000 upfront payment and she would book a guest house. I sent the R3000 by e-wallet.

I know what you are all going to say about upfront payments but I had no second thoughts about doing so -- I have known her for years and have even lent her money in the past when her wallet/cards where stolen and she needed cash and she paid me back literally within days. I really did trust her.

On the day that the all-nighter was supposed to take place she sent me a message/ voice note saying that she had just got out of a booking and would be looking for a guest house now and would send me the details. That was the last I heard from her. I happily headed through to Pretoria and went to a coffee shop to wait for the details. And boy did I wait. And wait. And wait. No response to messages. No answer to calls etc. Eventually I accepted what had just happened and headed home.

I have tried to get hold of her frequently since then, mostly unsuccessfully. On one occasion she answered, and we had a bit of a tense chat. I asked her what happened. Her first response was "I don't know" which is not ideal. Then she said that the R3000 wasn't for the all nighter but was because of the discounts she had given me. Which would be odd because that's not AT ALL what she said when she asked for the R3000 -- it was definitely an "upfront payment" (her words) for the overnighter, ( I still have the messages if people want to see the receipts) so if she was recouping the discounts it was done under false pretenses and besides how do you give a discount and then unilaterally revoke it?

Incidentally if she had messaged me and said "I actually can't afford to give you those discounts", I would have paid in the difference -- like I said I didn't actually want them in the first place. And actually I've told her that I'd be happy to let her keep it if she'll see me again.
But here we are -- She is still not responding to messages or answering any further calls and I'm out R3000.

Do not do upfront payments....nothing is more anoying that a adult man crying like a pussy

On 2022-11-22 16:28:06 fduck said:
On 2022-11-22 13:13:01

....nothing is more anoying that a adult man crying like a pussy

I dunno... Someone who sees what a thread is about then joins the conversation just to complain that it's about exactly what it says it's about must be pretty close.

On 2022-11-22 14:17:46 Arhwen said:

There's always more than one side to a story I will give the lady benefit of doubt.

Perhaps she will share her side to the story.

Karma is a bitch though ;)

[QUOTE;3892814;Arhwen] On 2022-11-22 13:50:29 verylasttime said: Sounds more like the whinings of a rejected man.

It may be it may not be unlike him I will give him the benefit of doubt ;) until his post has been disproved. [/QUOTE]

With your two statements above, it looks like you walking both backwards and forward at the same time

There are more good people in the purple space than bad people.
I have scars from being wrong but I also have good stories and a precious friendship from money matters.

@JP82. I know it sucks and I hope you get it sorted. But don't let it steal your humanity.
Her conduct may be telling us more about her than about you.

Those who see it as crying or whining, may accuse you of such so as to justify to themselves why they have not trusted.

Mr Potatoe

I was thinking the same about Arhwen's writings.

Maybe just used this thread (which we all know is going to be read by many) as marketing herself ?

And did not think it through ?

Cheers

On 2022-11-22 16:59:55 Cunilinkiss said:

Her conduct may be telling us more about her than about you.

It probably tells you quite a bit about both of us. Am I a schmuck for paying upfront? Undoubtedly. But I'd rather occasionally get taken advantage of, than close myself completely off (and of course it still stings when it happens). (Noting that I'm not just paying upfront to every SP here - This really was someone that I had a long history of trust with)

I have a feeling there is more to this story than what op is revealing...like who goes to a wg for a chat when they are having physical and "other" issues??? And the discounts may have made her feel entitled to this tiny windfall

99 problems

On 2022-11-22 17:19:38 berserker said:
I have a feeling there is more to this story than what op is revealing...like who goes to a wg for a chat when they are having physical and "other" issues??? And the discounts may have made her feel entitled to this tiny windfall

I do...regularly (and not just with Kate. But I'm not going to name anyone because I don't want to drag them into this spat). 25+ years of diabetes + heart disease + hypertension + anti-depressants + blood thinners + blood pressure meds will wreak havoc on your ability to "perform". It's not impossible, but at times can be very difficult. Often I don't know if things are going "to work" until I'm in the room and undressed. "Other issues" refers to going through a divorce and losing a loved one, so at the time I was paying for companionship with ladies I knew well, enjoyed spending time with and trusted. I guess as a form of escape from what was a truly hideous time in my life, even if I wasn't up to anything physical.

You'll have to ask the ladies generally if I'm the only one who does this, but I doubt it.

It's only 3k just move on. She has now been exposed. This probably happens more often than we all know but the guys don't have the courage the expose the perps.

Also be careful who you expose your vulnerabilities to. You could know them for years but never really know them if you know what I mean.