OK, so along with reading comprehension we can safely say that logic isn't your thing either.

You can't conclude that that just because someone didn't explicitly rule something out it must be true (or vice versa) .

I don't see you mentioning anywhere that you don't abuse puppies, but it would be equally absurd for me to say that "according to your posts you abuse puppies"

On 2022-11-22 13:13:01 JP82 said:
I really didn't want to write this, but I've tried everything I can, over several months, to resolve the issue and haven't been successful so I guess it's time to accept that it just is what it is.

I am also posting this on her profile.

I didn't want to write it, because the guilty party is one of my all-time favourites and I have really enjoyed getting to know her and spending time with her, and I have been seeing her for several years now. (Active ad: www.esa.co.za/escorts/viewEscort.php )

But the truth of the matter is that she has now robbed me.
So a while ago I was visiting this lady fairly frequently -- probably 4 or 5 times over two or three weeks (including a few times where I drove from Joburg through to PTA only to be stood up, which is not entirely unusual for her). At the time I was dealing with some issues (both health and other) and a lot of the bookings were just going for a drink or having a chat (i.e. nothing physical). For these bookings Kate frequently gave a discount in terms of which I just had to cover the cost of the room. I protested this (because if she wasn't seeing me she would be able to see another client and I didn't want her losing out on my account) but she insisted.

So anyway, as with many I found that an hour with her was just not enough, so arranged for an all-nighter. She quoted me a price and requested a R3000 upfront payment and she would book a guest house. I sent the R3000 by e-wallet.

I know what you are all going to say about upfront payments but I had no second thoughts about doing so -- I have known her for years and have even lent her money in the past when her wallet/cards where stolen and she needed cash and she paid me back literally within days. I really did trust her.

On the day that the all-nighter was supposed to take place she sent me a message/ voice note saying that she had just got out of a booking and would be looking for a guest house now and would send me the details. That was the last I heard from her. I happily headed through to Pretoria and went to a coffee shop to wait for the details. And boy did I wait. And wait. And wait. No response to messages. No answer to calls etc. Eventually I accepted what had just happened and headed home.

I have tried to get hold of her frequently since then, mostly unsuccessfully. On one occasion she answered, and we had a bit of a tense chat. I asked her what happened. Her first response was "I don't know" which is not ideal. Then she said that the R3000 wasn't for the all nighter but was because of the discounts she had given me. Which would be odd because that's not AT ALL what she said when she asked for the R3000 -- it was definitely an "upfront payment" (her words) for the overnighter, ( I still have the messages if people want to see the receipts) so if she was recouping the discounts it was done under false pretenses and besides how do you give a discount and then unilaterally revoke it?

Incidentally if she had messaged me and said "I actually can't afford to give you those discounts", I would have paid in the difference -- like I said I didn't actually want them in the first place. And actually I've told her that I'd be happy to let her keep it if she'll see me again.
But here we are -- She is still not responding to messages or answering any further calls and I'm out R3000.

Should Kate's story not make sense I will eat humble pie sir as I don't condone this kind of behavior ;)

Like I said I do give you the benefit of doubt though I was saying exactly what it did look like to me.

Keep in mind I looked at it as a Wg who has been in this business to know that there are good and bad working girl and good and bad punters.

In my I repeat in my opinion which my I add is just that my opinion I posted what I thought could be a strong possibility. It's just an opinion not a fact but I really have given you both the benefit of doubt irrespective of what anyone else thinks.

So until I draw my actual conclusion I will wait for Kate to respond. Should Kate take longer than 48 hours to respond. I will take her silence as a admission of guilt and give credit where it is due to you.

On 2022-11-22 22:22:48 Teletubby said:
OK, so along with reading comprehension we can safely say that logic isn't your thing either.

You can't conclude that that just because someone didn't explicitly rule something out it must be true (or vice versa) .

I don't see you mentioning anywhere that you don't abuse puppies, but it would be equally absurd for me to say that "according to your posts you abuse puppies"

Baka you need to be defenestrated as you clearly looking for attention from me lol

I don't have anything to add except,

You're gorgeous to look at Kate, I can only imagine how stunning you are in real life.
You make my eyes feel nice!!!

One day..

I'm curious as to who's business will be affected more by this thread.

The original hypothesized antagonist or the bandwagon nincompoop.

On 2022-11-23 06:28:58 Hound-dogg said:
I'm curious as to who's business will be affected more by this thread.

The original hypothesized antagonist or the bandwagon nincompoop.

Neither !

If someone gives you a gift does that entitle that person to take it back whenever they feel like - obviously not.
Kate gave JP a discount And by basically stealing his advance payment and blocking him (the usual MO) of a scam Kate should definitely be exposed.

It's not JP ruining her business but rather her actions .

Until further evidence or proof comes to light that's the take I'm getting from this sad sordid story involving Beauty and the Beast.

Kate did you not previously advertise under another name also in Waterkloof?

If so others also had a similar issue.

Regrettably I can't provide the old name but a forum search is easy enough

client.esa.co.za/forum/thread.php

Gentlemen please humor me, here's a little advice regarding upfront payment.

Give preference to service providers showing face.
When making your payment deposit it into her real world Bank account with her real identity.

These two simple considerations will lower risk to you substantially

On 2022-11-22 17:19:38 berserker said:
And the discounts may have made her feel entitled to this tiny windfall

Even if that were a reasonable position, if you had something like this happen to you that by your definition of it was not a "tiny windfall" would you appreciate someone diminishing your views because they might have a better cash flow?

The man who started the thread has a point, share the stories of the ladies who give bad service, take what does not belong to them or scam the clients, it will hold them accountable even if only in the court of public opinion and thereby improved the service.

@Sage now I am curious!

Please could you share the link from both the advertiser and the punters punters platform.

Because IF it is the same lady then it is a habit of hers and who know how many punters she has done this too.

If she has previously done this and changed her profile then nothing stops her from changing it again.

Though I don't know the lady and can't say for certain that it is her perhaps the guys who have been with her could clarify if it is the same lady.

If it is one and the same person ESA should step in.

Kate's silence is rather disturbing.

If it was me in question I would have posted long ago to tell my side of the story.

Though someone did post on this thread that he has has multiple visits with the lady and never had a problem.

Again please share the link as I can't access the link you posted.