@Meilin, I completely missed the points you're trying to make, but maybe I'm slow.

Let me go do what I do best and punt.

On 2026-06-12 09:48:01 NickNailer said:


I recently saw am interview with a former prime minister of South africa saying that having people from other african countries actually keeps those countries economies moving. He further went on to say without SA those countries economies could potentially collapse and it is the the duty of south africa to help uplift our african neighbours. According to his view kicking out immigrants is not the answer.

Bonus points if you know which prime minister I am referring to

Listen my friend I once heard a president of south africa say he need a shower after some bareback action, then there's beets and potato, or wet coal, you think I must play guessing games for stupid utterances of uneducated politicians? On 30june you can fuck off with the rest of them.

I said prime minister not president. Big clue right there

On 2026-06-12 11:24:47 Meilin said:
[QUOTE;6134479;Littlerascal] On 2026-06-10 19:33:28

Hey Rascy, I'd love to. You fund it, and I'm on it.

The point I was making here is that of the expense it costs the country to keep 26 000 of them prisoned, regardless of the offence or whether they're on trial,awaiting trial or charged.

I'll rephrase for a different point of viewing this matter. Which country in the world has "a lot" ( I don't know what number represents a lot but out of the 26 0000) of undocumented South African prisoners captured in their system awaiting trial? Mind you these are the ones captured. How many other ones are still out there bribing their way to their freedom? Back to what I was saying: which country allocates their resources and time to look into why foreigners are there unlawfully without an almost immediate harsh sentence or deportation? Are you gonna say it's cause those countries can afford to-unlike us here in S.A?( when there's foreigners who are documented and abide by the law). Yes, because leadership in those regions isn't a circus. Something we're evidently and actively trying to fix after decades of ignored, overlooked, failed civil attempts of resolving this.

My point is, the law is still holding those people accountable for being undocumented (and I'm sure the numbers aren't as ridiculous as ours is). Hell, Cryril Ramaphosa is facing an impeachment inquiry as we speak for a 2020. Why? because we are all governed by the law in all that we do, or should I say we are meant to be governed by the law. It restores order, safety and human dignity.

Now that citizens are saying " we are reclaiming our power for all these years we've witnessed the above only applying to us ordinary citizens, while our leaders have immersed themselves in greed rings and the abuse of power that benefits them and not us the people who put them in power "- that's xenophobic and Afrophobic? Dear purple world, hear me out, THE LAW IS THE LAW OF THE PEOPLE BY THE PEOPLE. Hence the SACR exists, government can be taken to court and that's what we're doing. We are not going to have a government that uses the laws that were made to protect and serve us to intimidate and treat us like secondary citizens.

We know for a fact that locals are the majority occupants of our prisons. And to me, it logically makes sense because they're native South Africans. Do you think in Nigeria or Malawi they have more foreign inmates than their locals, of course not Rascy. The heinous crimes locals commit is even more reason why resources should be preserved. Another noteworthy point is- crime happens everywhere. Even in 3rd world countries there's GBV, crime, looting and kidnappings occur.

What I mean when I say the law of S.A has deemed unfit: I mean you have committed a crime against the law- illegal immigration is not exempt. Deportation is an issue because these politicians benefit from keeping them here. Not necessarily because it is. How would you afford a lawyer in a country where you came to "hustle"? (where you're exploited if not doing crime or competing with locals for the markets they have created as response to this ridiculous unemployment rate) because you'd take anything but that bus back home? Do you think the ones that are lawfully here, providing scarce skills that the country needs are at risk of being detained or deported? To answer your question, my viewpoint remains the same. The law can't change to suit individuals circumstances.

Yes, you and I are unfortunately not law abiding citizens. Especially me. Every single day I leave my place to take bookings: I expect anything to happen. I'm prepared for anything to happen, because solicitation of goods is a criminal offence. It comes with the job! When I open my door, I know it could be a Sergeant or a Warrant officer(love the thrill by the way) booking to arrest me. Giving sensual massages with a handjob is sex work and sex work is not legal in S.A, yet.

You know whats the difference between me and these people, I'm not expecting the law of South Africa to be lenient to me, will gladly serve my time, in my country of origin, in a prison that is built and sustained with my entire family's tax and mine, without the government and its people having to go through the trouble of not knowing how to deport me to my birth country- that's if it's even known. These undocumented immigrants, their employees and everyone else involved knows that they're doing so that's consensual.They're hired without the right papers/ updated and they willingly participate in the trade. When they roam around the streets of this country knowing that they're undocumented- committing a crime, that's consensual. What exactly are they expecting? A SunCity trip? Yes but the other SunCity.

I think society has much more pressing issues to focus on rather than choosing who to empathise with, especially when it's people who couldn't stay out of trouble. Irrespective of whether they were hungry or horny. Society wouldn't sympathise with us from an ethical point of view, but logically, they'd know you were horny and I was at work. And you know what? You made me rethink this beautiful craft of mine. I used to think this is not honest living. I've changed my mind- sex work is actually honest living. I could be on tinder claiming to be looking for love, only to organise meet ups, spike men and steal their belongings to make a living, just like other girls that aren't here do. But I pay RJ to advertise here, I book and pay a photographer to take new sets of me, I post on the forum everyday and take my bookings clean, face and hair done, with lingerie and heels on EVERY DAMN TIME. How is this not honest living? It's just arguably not ethical living, according to whose ethical standards- I don't know. I wasn't raised or groomed to be a goddess of purity culture. I do not care for that. Me and all my sisters here because not everyone makes it here and not everyone who makes it here stays.

Deceit, theft and exploitation is not honest living Rascal, in your country of origin or not. I'm talking about these illegal immigrants and the people that hire them. Let me know if you want me to unpack on what I mean by deceit, theft and exploitation. As for me, I'm not earning my money legally(according to the law of S.A) and morally, that's questionable. But who am I deceiving- the government that wants to know how I make my money, like I know how they make theirs. Who am I stealing from or exploiting while making this not-so-honest living? And you? Consumer of the service, you're only guilty because the law says get sex for free and not pay for it. You're probably deceiving whoever that thinks you're loyal to them, but who are you stealing from or exploiting when you just wanna be touched until you cum? And the only reason why society would overlook that I too, COULD be doing this for my own survival is for the reason mentioned above-glorifying purity culture. Not because they aren't disgusted by the consequences of illegal immigration. But because group thinking, misogyny, misconceptions, and social cohesion have won the mind of the majority- making sexual liberation seem as if its something to be ashamed of. How is it my problem that other people think selling private property(cake) is something to be disgusted of?

When I get time, I'm gonna come back here to speak more of my mind regarding this. Sorry but this discussion is not gonna end now.

You pay tax? ? lol good one

I doubt any WG is paying tax, if you are then you are doing it wrong.

On 2026-06-13 14:10:45 dickus said:
I doubt any WG is paying tax, if you are then you are doing it wrong.

I didn't read the long stories of this thread but there certainly are wgs paying tax,and I'm fact I'd say the smart ones. They are the ones doing it right. Let's be realz they're not paying tax on every rand. But many register businesses of some sort that they run this money through. This allows them to do normal things. They can finance car and hoise purchases. Take cell phone contracts. Rent out property for work or living at normal rates as they have "employment" and income to back it up. 3 months bank statements with actual income. Thry can take student loans for their kids. They can even put themselves and their family on their company medical aid and get the tax benefits etc. sure they might only be declaring R50K of R250k cash received but being a "legal tax payer with legitimate income" has a lot of perks. SARS isn't gonna come asking how you paying for a 4 bedroom house and a German SUV when you're declaring income and showing the payments from those accounts either.

It's actually stupid not to do so. Now they can't finance anything. Buying a house is next to impossible as they need all the cash upfront. Buying a vehicle leaves you at the whims of the secondhand market. Renting is expensive as most rent to someone with no legitimate income and when they do it can be very very expensive. Taking things like cell phone, fibre contracts, clothing accounts etc is virtual impossible without declared income. Most can't get medical aid leaving them in a pinch when some medical emergency happens.

There are smart wgs here (in that respect) that are running legitimate business fronts for this work and paying tax and financing house and cars and even pension funds and RA's with it.

JP69

On 2026-06-13 11:45:16 NickNailer said:
I said prime minister not president. Big clue right there

I read what you wrote, an I'm aware of my response. I pulled rank by referring to a president to show you at the highest level I do not give a fuck what any politician says. From the taxman to prime minister to president and finally your arse.

That I must explain myself here on a sex forum.

JP69, the service providers that you speak of are in the minority. I've met a couple who managed to save and start businesses and they pay taxes from those businesses, but the majority are not in that bracket you're talking about.

On 2026-06-13 15:22:13 Littlerascal said:
JP69, the service providers that you speak of are in the minority. I've met a couple who managed to save and start businesses and they pay taxes from those businesses, but the majority are not in that bracket you're talking about.

Agree

On 2026-06-13 13:18:00 Farmerb said:
On 2026-06-12 11:24:47 Meilin said: [QUOTE;6134479;Littlerascal] On 2026-06-10 19:33:28

You pay tax? ? lol good one

Tax and fines when I've submitted my returns late. lol, you thought I don't? I hope you read JP69's insights? Stick around, rookie, you'll learn shit.