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Re: Is marriage worth it?
Posted: 2026-02-21 12:28:01
What is broken? Is anything/ anyone really broken; or just different?
On 2026-02-16 14:45:44 Russian Bridgitte said:
Does "broken" not ask of the other to be "broken" ...tweaked?
RB.
What is broken? Is anything/ anyone really broken; or just different?
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Re: Is marriage worth it?
Posted: 2026-02-21 12:44:50
Edited: 2026-02-21 12:47:04
Edited: 2026-02-21 12:47:04
The fact that you have to ask about it, that means you shouldn't do it:)
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Re: Is marriage worth it?
Posted: 2026-02-21 13:50:17
Edited: 2026-02-21 13:54:03
Broken is not different.
It means "broken" .
And very few of us are walking around not broken ....in some way or other.
A topic on its own...and to use your example of a man so broken that when his "crutch" left him, led to his downward spiral....Freddy Mercury.
Broken and different?
RB
Edited: 2026-02-21 13:54:03
On 2026-02-21 12:28:01 J_J said:
On 2026-02-16 14:45:44 Russian Bridgitte said:
Does "broken" not ask of the other to be "broken" ...tweaked?
RB.
What is broken? Is anything/ anyone really broken; or just different?
Broken is not different.
It means "broken" .
And very few of us are walking around not broken ....in some way or other.
A topic on its own...and to use your example of a man so broken that when his "crutch" left him, led to his downward spiral....Freddy Mercury.
Broken and different?
RB
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Re: Is marriage worth it?
Posted: 2026-02-21 17:25:09
When a car has a few dents in it, is it broken? Or does it add character to the vehicle? For some its an eye sore, but for others its ...
I'm reminded of a scene during the Christmas period. The wife and I went for a walk, a long one and she was broken afterwards (lol), no, let me be serious.
While walking a family (elderly man and woman and two kids) drove by in a yellow beatle, one of those old original ones with lots of kinks and patches. Roof modified to be a convertible. It was super cool.
About a kilometer or two on, we passed them. The two kids were sitting under a tree, wife was walking around in the street a little agitated and the guy was under hood tinkering with something.
And a bit later they drove past again, a jolly family on a Sunday outing ...
Is anything really broken, or do psychologist just need work?
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I'm reminded of one who actually approached his work differently. Jung. Unlike Freud who saw mental patients as broken, in need of incarceration, and all kinds of invasive therapy to fix them, he saw them as different and sought to understand them as opposed to 'fix them'. To the extend that he was willing to to delve into become mentally insane himself. Even though he writes a lot about his fear of breaking with reality, he never the less ventured down that road, and many actually thought he was looney, and dismissed his work as that of a crazy man. Today the work on consciousness, is enlightened by the work of Jung, if you approach it from a scientific perspective. But even from a mystical perspective, its one of the areas where science and religion blend well.
Broken or different. Can a human be broken. Some religions believe god lives within us. If true, is god broken or the source of the break. Or is it just a conscious that takes us beyond a societal norm and its the break in relations, like the Freudian community rejecting Jung, that makes us appear broken.
On 2026-02-21 13:50:17 Russian Bridgitte said:
Broken is not different.
It means "broken" .
And very few of us are walking around not broken ....in some way or other.
A topic on its own...
Broken and different?
RB
When a car has a few dents in it, is it broken? Or does it add character to the vehicle? For some its an eye sore, but for others its ...
I'm reminded of a scene during the Christmas period. The wife and I went for a walk, a long one and she was broken afterwards (lol), no, let me be serious.
While walking a family (elderly man and woman and two kids) drove by in a yellow beatle, one of those old original ones with lots of kinks and patches. Roof modified to be a convertible. It was super cool.
About a kilometer or two on, we passed them. The two kids were sitting under a tree, wife was walking around in the street a little agitated and the guy was under hood tinkering with something.
And a bit later they drove past again, a jolly family on a Sunday outing ...
Is anything really broken, or do psychologist just need work?
___
I'm reminded of one who actually approached his work differently. Jung. Unlike Freud who saw mental patients as broken, in need of incarceration, and all kinds of invasive therapy to fix them, he saw them as different and sought to understand them as opposed to 'fix them'. To the extend that he was willing to to delve into become mentally insane himself. Even though he writes a lot about his fear of breaking with reality, he never the less ventured down that road, and many actually thought he was looney, and dismissed his work as that of a crazy man. Today the work on consciousness, is enlightened by the work of Jung, if you approach it from a scientific perspective. But even from a mystical perspective, its one of the areas where science and religion blend well.
Broken or different. Can a human be broken. Some religions believe god lives within us. If true, is god broken or the source of the break. Or is it just a conscious that takes us beyond a societal norm and its the break in relations, like the Freudian community rejecting Jung, that makes us appear broken.
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Re: Is marriage worth it?
Posted: 2026-02-21 18:47:22
I agree with you J-J .
Those dents and grooves will either add character and bring a sense of satisfaction or be an eyesore to others, judging .
The superficiality.
As to Freud or Jung.
Both rightfully masters in their own right.
But as my writings not only on this forum bear witness, I have a greater affiliation to Jung and prefer to bring an understanding before a "fixing" could take place.
And in the same breath, although I love philosophising, rose tinted glasses, have never sat well on the bridge of my nose and thus to call myself a pragmatic romantic ...a Freudian and a disciple of Jung too.
As to the Almighty, no matter the name and which book is read , one lives to a code of conduct, a right and wrong and purgatory is man made thing.
A brokenness no matter Jung or Freud, a living hell no matter the many blessings one may be offered or guided to....unless one cares to know oneself and not look to crutches to make sense or give meaning to the many anomalies in our lives.
Broken is not a beetle or BMW or a shack or a palace. It is the very core that beats deep within one no matter the blessing or challenge....and some shall pass through this life more broken than others without the realisation or desire how blessed they actually are.
RB.
I agree with you J-J .
Those dents and grooves will either add character and bring a sense of satisfaction or be an eyesore to others, judging .
The superficiality.
As to Freud or Jung.
Both rightfully masters in their own right.
But as my writings not only on this forum bear witness, I have a greater affiliation to Jung and prefer to bring an understanding before a "fixing" could take place.
And in the same breath, although I love philosophising, rose tinted glasses, have never sat well on the bridge of my nose and thus to call myself a pragmatic romantic ...a Freudian and a disciple of Jung too.
As to the Almighty, no matter the name and which book is read , one lives to a code of conduct, a right and wrong and purgatory is man made thing.
A brokenness no matter Jung or Freud, a living hell no matter the many blessings one may be offered or guided to....unless one cares to know oneself and not look to crutches to make sense or give meaning to the many anomalies in our lives.
Broken is not a beetle or BMW or a shack or a palace. It is the very core that beats deep within one no matter the blessing or challenge....and some shall pass through this life more broken than others without the realisation or desire how blessed they actually are.
RB.
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Re: Is marriage worth it?
Posted: 2026-02-22 19:29:29
Marriage is absolutely worth it, if you find a good girl, but sleeping with one woman only seems absolutely impossible for me and probably a lot of other guys. I don't see it as cheating if you have no emotional feelings whatsoever towards the person.
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Re: Is marriage worth it?
Posted: 2026-02-24 21:48:21
Heard this song on the radio on the drive home this evening and was reminded of this conversation. I don't think you can call Farrokh's love for Mary a crutch. Maybe marriage is more of a crutch, a human construct to enable a contractual relationships between two parties.
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Love of my life, you've hurt me
You've broken my heart, and now you leave me
Love of my life, can't you see?
Bring it back, bring it back
Don't take it away from me
Because you don't know what it means to me
Love of my life, don't leave me
You've taken my love, and now desert me
Love of my life, can't you see?
Bring it back, bring it back
Don't take it away from me
Because you don't know what it means to me
You will remember
When this is blown over
And everything's all by the way
When I grow older
I will be there at your side to remind you
How I still love you
(I still love you)
Back, hurry back
Please, bring it back home to me
Because you don't know
What it means to me
Love of my life
Love of my life
Ooh, ooh
"
On 2026-02-21 13:50:17 Russian Bridgitte said:
A topic on its own...and to use your example of a man so broken that when his "crutch" left him, led to his downward spiral....Freddy Mercury.
RB
Heard this song on the radio on the drive home this evening and was reminded of this conversation. I don't think you can call Farrokh's love for Mary a crutch. Maybe marriage is more of a crutch, a human construct to enable a contractual relationships between two parties.
"
Love of my life, you've hurt me
You've broken my heart, and now you leave me
Love of my life, can't you see?
Bring it back, bring it back
Don't take it away from me
Because you don't know what it means to me
Love of my life, don't leave me
You've taken my love, and now desert me
Love of my life, can't you see?
Bring it back, bring it back
Don't take it away from me
Because you don't know what it means to me
You will remember
When this is blown over
And everything's all by the way
When I grow older
I will be there at your side to remind you
How I still love you
(I still love you)
Back, hurry back
Please, bring it back home to me
Because you don't know
What it means to me
Love of my life
Love of my life
Ooh, ooh
"
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