Assuming your version of events is accurate, it is poor form of her to take an upfront payment and then renegue on the arrangement.

However, imho, 4-5 visits without paying her fee, even if you weakly attempted to is also poor form.

Maybe one visit, where she said: "we weren't doing a booking" and you didn't pay is OK, but a regular 4-5 visits like that.. poor form on your part.

This was the root cause of what soured your and her friendship imho.

On 2022-11-22 18:29:23 JP82 said:
On 2022-11-22 18:14:19 JiminyCricket said: For these bookings Kate frequently gave a discount in terms of which I just had to cover the cost of the room. I protested this (because if she wasn't seeing me she would be able to see another client and I didn't want her losing out on my account) but she insisted.

Sounds like you were taking advantage of her! These ladies are her to make a living and you are paying for their time.

4-5 visits, my thoughts are you owe her at least another 2k



Not all of the bookings were discounted. But either way I was ready to pay for her time. I was literally in the room, with the money to do so in my wallet/hand.

I know that the ladies are here to make a living. I also know that by seeing me she was forfeiting the opportunity to get paid by someone else (i.e. in economics jargon the 'opportunity cost' of her seeing me is her normal rate.) which is what I told her. I even told her that the last thing I would want is for her to have second thoughts about accepting a booking from me because she could more profitably see someone else.

She wouldn't accept it, because "we weren't doing a booking". In fact on one occasion, we decided to go get a drink - she got ready in the bathroom and I left the full fee on the bed. She came out, I went into the bathroom and when I came out she had taken the cost of the room and insisted on handing the rest back to me. How is that taking advantage? What should I have done? Physically fought her?

(Also like you say they're here to make a living - this is a business. Where TF have you heard of a business that gives a discount and then later tells you, you owe them that amount?)

Seeing as she has been giving you many discounts and might be a decent person, why did you not give her the benefit of the doubt or let it slide and move on?? Maybe she is going through a rough period in her life or has other issues and isn't thinking straight...I would have given her a week and warning that you would post this on the forum and on her profile...seems a bit petty and vindictive.

On 2022-11-22 16:59:29 Potatoejetguy said:
On 2022-11-22 14:17:46 Arhwen said:
There's always more than one side to a story I will give the lady benefit of doubt.

Perhaps she will share her side to the story.

Karma is a bitch though ;)

[QUOTE;3892814;Arhwen] On 2022-11-22 13:50:29 verylasttime said: Sounds more like the whinings of a rejected man.

It may be it may not be unlike him I will give him the benefit of doubt ;) until his post has been disproved.

With your two statements above, it looks like you walking both backwards and forward at the same time [/QUOTE]

Actually it wasn't. It was giving the lady and the man benefit of doubt.

Though Karma is a bitch depending on who is in the wrong.

Like I said there are 2 sides to a story.

But you can take it which ever way you want.

Personally I don't like the person who started this thread but he too deserves the benefit of doubt I won't be like him to jump to conclusions without knowing facts.

On 2022-11-22 19:01:30 Lagen said:
Assuming your version of events is accurate, it is poor form of her to take an upfront payment and then renegue on the arrangement.

However, imho, 4-5 visits without paying her fee, even if you weakly attempted to is also poor form.

Maybe one visit, where she said: "we weren't doing a booking" and you didn't pay is OK, but a regular 4-5 visits like that.. poor form on your part.

This was the root cause of what soured your and her friendship imho.

As I said above, not all 4/5 were discounted (I mentioned that number to emphasize how much I was seeing her at the time)

On 2022-11-22 19:01:30 Lagen said:
Assuming your version of events is accurate, it is poor form of her to take an upfront payment and then renegue on the arrangement.

However, imho, 4-5 visits without paying her fee, even if you weakly attempted to is also poor form.

Maybe one visit, where she said: "we weren't doing a booking" and you didn't pay is OK, but a regular 4-5 visits like that.. poor form on your part.

This was the root cause of what soured your and her friendship imho.

To me it looks like taking advantage of her good nature but let's first here what Kate has to say.

On 2022-11-22 17:10:58 Bruv said:
Mr Potatoe

I was thinking the same about Arhwen's writings.

Maybe just used this thread (which we all know is going to be read by many) as marketing herself ?

And did not think it through ?

Cheers

LOL selling my services is marketing myself and even if I was it's non of your business since you don't pay my adds or for my lifestyle.

Best you stop thinking because I was giving the lady and the poster the benefit of doubt.

Anyway why are you so concerned about what I do.

On 2022-11-22 17:10:58 Bruv said:
Mr Potatoe

I was thinking the same about Arhwen's writings.

Maybe just used this thread (which we all know is going to be read by many) as marketing herself ?

And did not think it through ?

Cheers

LOL selling my services is marketing myself and even if I was it's non of your business since you don't pay my adds or for my lifestyle.

Best you stop thinking because I was giving the lady and the poster the benefit of doubt.

Anyway why are you so concerned about what I do.

On 2022-11-22 17:19:38 berserker said:
I have a feeling there is more to this story than what op is revealing...like who goes to a wg for a chat when they are having physical and "other" issues??? And the discounts may have made her feel entitled to this tiny windfall

Definitely

1. Grow a pair.
2. You pay for time, not sex. Pay the full amount and a tip if you can.

Kate is great, I can only speak highly of her

On 2022-11-22 19:06:58 berserker said:

Seeing as she has been giving you many discounts and might be a decent person, why did you not give her the benefit of the doubt or let it slide and move on?? Maybe she is going through a rough period in her life or has other issues and isn't thinking straight...I would have given her a week and warning that you would post this on the forum and on her profile...seems a bit petty and vindictive.

I didn't give her warning that I was going to post- but I have given her several months to try sort it out (and a ton of opportunities to sort it out privately). But I'm also not sure that when someone does something really shitty to you, and refuses any and all chances to make it right, there's an obligation on you to give them (a millionth) opportunity to rectify it, before exposing them publicly.

In fact I recently changed my punting sim (after getting a couple of scam calls) so messaged her a couple times since last week from a my new number (clearly stating that it was me - I didn't try to ambush her) - explicitly saying I'm willing to let the money go but I'd like to see her. She ignored me, and then blocked me (again). How many chances is enough before, exposing shitty behaviour?